Friday, April 25, 2014

racist: it's like a magic spell to win arguments...,


I don't agree with Bundy's actions.

I don't agree with Bundy's views.

But what I genuinely dislike is the willful misrepresentation of Bundy's awkward statements - now broadly propagandized - with the intention to prevent further constructive dialogue. 

Constructive dialogue and action-oriented engagement is the only hope you idiotic, broken-machine deuterostems have got. So you better suck up all that hysterical nonsense, disingenuous misdirection,  and get down to serious business of finding some common ground.

Bundy did not say that you negroes had it good during slavery. Bundy openly wondered whether prior circumstances had you negroes doing better than current circumstances. What this means, and he is clear about this, is that the institutional racism - of  the last 40 years of failed social engineering policy - have enslaved your poor urban negroe cousins more insidiously than Simon Legree.

Considering the incarceration rates, the school dropout rates, the poverty and drug abuse rates, and your poor urban negroe cousins are undoubtedly enslaved in a go-nowhere, collapsed political economy. You are of course, as are they, quite free to run your mouths about the situation, say a whole lot about nothing, and do even less than you talk. Bundy is of course not entitled to open his mouth about what he thinks and sees.

Bundy is neither an articulate or an educated man. He made the mistake of publicly expressing the fact that he sometimes wonders which slavery is worse.  Wondering about this out loud and in public does not make Bundy racist. He misunderstands freedom and law. What he does understand, however, is the necessity of self-reliance. The spirit of self-reliance and genuine self-worth has been destroyed among many contemporary negroes to a large extent by, and most insidiously, by the very institutions that purport to help.

By applying the word racist to anyone who expresses an opinion that does not conform to the narrow orthodoxy of politically correct speech on any subject vaguely related to race or culture, the Cathedral and its minions have only themselves to blame for robbing the word of any meaning.

As racism is now a meaningless word, it is pointless arguing whether someone is or isn't a racist. It's an empty argument. Why bother.

So, what is actually interesting about the Bundy situation? Federal bureaucrats turned a simple enforcement of court rulings into a mess. All they needed to do was have the federal court order the lower court to give the county sheriff an order that Bundy be brought in front of the court by such and such a date. That would have been that.  The posse comitatus (power of the county) would have had to escort its kith and kin to the county seat for the proper exercise of sovereign authority that Bundy acknowledges.

Bundy in a nutshell

Bundy has had his day (multiple days) in Court.

Bundy has lost every time.
We are a nation of laws and Bundy is WRONG - period.

See how easy that was?  Labeling people and ideas is the mark of a lazy mind and a sloppy thinker. Engage with the relevant facts directly. In general, that's a far more challenging proposition than simply labeling things. In the case of Cliven Bundy, however, sticking to the facts is like shooting fish in a barrel.

No troops. No national TV on the evening news. If course, that would have been too easy - and the SWATs and the militias would not have had the chance to dress up and play war.

Bundy is proof that we all must work harder to improve educational opportunities in this country. And perhaps even promote more lifelong learning and interpersonal communion with people superficially different from ourselves. Cliven Bundy is a living, breathing "teachable moment".

That Bundy suggests slaves led a happy life or that black people mistakenly left the Paradise of the South, where they had everything they needed--jobs, chickens, gardens, children, and unincarcerated menfolk -  is a two-dimensional version of black American history we should all be ashamed of. In fact, it's a two-dimensional version of history jarringly at odds with the saga of his own displaced and "misunderstood" Mormon forbears.

When people lack knowledge and diverse friendships, they rely on stereotypes.

One would imagine that the purported educators in the race studies vestibule of the Cathedral would have seized upon the opportunity to grace poor, ignorant Cliven Bundy with the ineffable riches of their highly overrated "priors"..., instead, they've simply, disingenuously, and self-servingly labelled him a racist - and in so doing - carried water for an institutional apparatus that thinks nothing of allowing its minions to needlessly and foolishly dress up and play soldier with citizens over civil legal matters that have already been decided on the facts, under law, and that can be settled at the county level.

29 comments:

woodensplinter said...

You are of course, as are they, quite free to run your mouths about the situation, say a whole lot about nothing, and do even less than you talk. Bundy is of course not entitled to open his mouth about what he thinks and sees.

The self-righteous tyranny of those demonizing Bundy is spectacular. As you are likely already aware - the Mormon history is complicated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_early_Mormonism but on the balance - sigh - is complicated.

CNu said...

Well, after I complete my exploration of Roman Catholicism, it'll be time to fully explore the magic and mystery of Mormonism. Hands-down, the most accomplished preppers in the world. http://youtu.be/StQceM_BFN0

umbrarchist said...

When I was at IBM I had a White man ask me why I wanted a computer at home. This was around 1980. I had built a Heathkit H-8 computer. The 20 kilobytes of RAM cost me $200.

What sense does that question make today? But what are we doing with the computers that really makes much sense. Read the crap on Twitter. ROFLMBAO

The Laws of Physics do not give a damn about White people or America.

The nation that put men on the Moon can't solve a physics problem about skyscrapers. I am sorry, but that is more important than racism. Or is it integral to racism?

Reality is whatever most White people think!

Vic78 said...

I hope the writer isn't serious. The talented tenth was bullshit from inception. If he seriously considers himself a talented tenther, he has earned his unhappiness. At least get some thicker skin if he really wants to be a leader.

I'm scratching my head that people over 25 are still hurt over not being thought Black enough. I figured after 25, a person's bullshit tolerance meter goes down and they find less time to entertain such fuckery. People talking that 'Black enough' thing are worthless assholes for the most part.

CNu said...

Reality is whatever most White people think!

lol, coffee straight through the nostrils.

Consensus reality is what we're all told to believe and think - that is until the psychedelic drugs kick in....,

CNu said...

Dood, there was spank Tah-nussy gold in the comments though...,

Vic78 said...

I don't have the strength to be outraged all the time. People are missing the bigger picture in what just happened. Bundy and his following have just been marginalized. So when the Feds decide to move against the sovereign citizens, the movement will have few sympathizers. People will be glad to see them go down for the most part.

If the racism hunters had guile they would get to work marginalizing Bundy's supporters. I'm talking about Fox News, the Koch Bros, and some of the more dimwitted elected officials. Their own statements damn them; so tie them to Bundy's wagon and let them go off the cliff together. But they don't have guile and they're going to go hellfire and brimstone against some old guy that doesn't believe in paying his taxes. And Bundy ends up a teachable moment when he was just a little off upstairs.

umbrarchist said...

That question sticks in my mind to this day. I was about 28 at the time. The man was Tom Flanagan and he was in his 50s. For a little while I was angry thinking he was wondering what a BLACK kid wanted with a computer. But after a while I thought he was genuinely confused.

I will concede that what has happened with computers has exceeded what I was expecting at the time but I don't think he was even imagining what I was expecting. I suspect he thought computers were for businesses doing boring but necessary things. I was expecting color graphics that almost no businesses were doing at the time.

But now we have the problem of what kind of techno-cyber-reality to create. Not quite The Matrix but nearly as bizarre.

But then the computers could teach physics. I expect a war over what to do with computers in the schools that are supposed to produce the Consensual Reality.

Vic78 said...

Yes, and I did enjoy that part. They showed him no mercy. Seeing that boy's defenders punching the wind was fun. Lol@ the commenters calling Coates out for running after every essay.

Ed Dunn said...

And I was getting ready to blog how these "liberal race intellectuals" have the worst job in the world. Content writing, race topics, no growth opportunity...no best seller book or think tank will ever come out of their psuedo-intellectual race writings that has no semblance of authenticity regarding Black/White issues.

Any Black man with experience can see the old Bundy guy has a limited view and take it into consideration. Anybody who haven't been anywhere use the same elements of bigotry to write him off as some racist who stereoptypically want his cows to graze while hating black people at the same time...

CNu said...

Tim Wise can't - and shouldn't have to - rescue your punk-ass every time you get called on the carpet for your latest allegations of microaggressions and how these relate to some shit that went down in 1858. I mean gottdayyum. Ain't see no James Baldwin crying like a little bee-hotch, packing up his toys and fleeing the scene of the altercation when surrounded on all sides at Oxford.

If you ain't role-ing like Mace Windu/Adoiph Reed on some serious grown folk intellectual chops, then move out the way because you're a fraud and a liability. Too gottdayyum many folk crowding the podium and the microphone about now are just plain old, flat-out, not up to the task at hand. That's why they're allowed on stage in the first place anymore.

Tweed jacket, elbow patch, worldstar....,

CNu said...

bears repeating:So when the Feds decide to move against the sovereign citizens, the
movement will have few sympathizers. People will be glad to see them go
down for the most part.


domestic terrorist/white supremacist - the stage is being set for Bundy to get put down hard and in my occasionally humble estimation, that's a conspicuously obvious to the casual observer type of set up going on about now. Tah-nussy was crying a couple weeks back about Chait drawing a false equivalence between being the subject of racism and being called a racist. The state and its media organs are putting into motion a gangbuster demonstration of the real-world downsides of being broadly labeled and denounced as a racist - and I for one - don't give even one instant's credence to that claim in this case.

CNu said...

lol, somebody could bank a quick, viral, ruthlessly exploitative fortune doing limited-view, old black guy on the street video interviews and pressing the right buttons to get those cats feeling a certain type of way and giving voice to those feelings. Bundy actually said surprisingly little and nothing with any kind of passion.

Can you even imagine if that had been BD being interviewed? The outlandish shit that would've come passionately gushing out of his mouth (not that that many people would understand some of his indiosyncratic terms) almost be like interviewing Bro. ConFeed as far as cryptic neologisms and arcane coinages goes.

rotflmbao....,so here's my comical digression for the weekeind. I'ma see if I can find a random phrase generator and load it up with a BD/ConFeed mashup to see what kind of impenetrable flow that would produce. iq-75 BLACKFOX fuzzlim street pirate with no future time oriented community VALUABLES

phx said...

This piece is very clear, very sensible. It's the kind of understanding that we need to restore to the public discourse. It's aligned with the principle of charity in rhetoric which is sadly missing these days. I think the Internet makes it a lot easier to dehumanize each other and take a scorched earth policy towards our political opponents.

Makheru Bradley said...

"Constructive dialogue and action-oriented engagement is the only hope..." Ultimately practice proves everything. Since it is the only hope Bro. Nulan, what groups are you constructively engaging in dialogue (other than the avatars on this blog) and what are the results? .

Makheru Bradley said...

"Constructive dialogue and action-oriented engagement is the only hope..." Ultimately practice proves everything. Since constructive dialogue is the only hope Bro. Nulan, with whom, or what groups are you currently engaged, and what results can you report?

CNu said...

I like these cats Bro. Makheru http://showmeinstitute.org/ - special privilege library cards for 17000 kids in the 3rd and 5th districts, book pick up and delivery at 32 more locations close to home from a regional library consortium spanning a 75 mile radius - so from like Topeka to Independence - and coming this summer, a homework assistance, multiple research database, and ebook portal - which brings us full back round to the special privileges embedded in those library cards.

BigDonOne said...

"When you consider all the crime, and destruction of family values, and destruction of great cities, and destruction of education, and destruction of health care, and squandering of untold gigabux keeping parasites afloat (a misdirection of resources that could have vastly improved national productivity and competence), and indeed destruction of a once-fine national government up unto the White House, that could have been so easily prevented....... it is obvious we SHOULD HAVE PICKED OUR OWN GODDAM COTTON..."
...............-BD- -April 2014-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

CNu said...

rotflmbao...., volunteering his own passionate mashup - complete with a CAPS LOCKED finale. Priceless....,

Ed Dunn said...

Volunteering at JA Finance Park here in Atlanta is constructive dialogue and action-oriented engagement.

http://youtu.be/QAKETgs73rM

BigDonOne said...

Give BD a break...we did not even use any of those offensive descriptors y'all black-listed for moderation...

anti cracker said...

sucking the breast milk of capital one

anti cracker said...

C-POO POO doesn't allow for debate on here, unless you agree with the god.

you idiots engage with a dope that likes to control the debate, and if a negro like myself wonder to far off the "we's love the white man" plantation................well you get what i am about to get.

Makheru Bradley said...

"I like these cats..." Does that mean this is a group with whom you've engaged in constructive dialogue?

CNu said...

sigh..., you spray, put out baits, and try and keep crumbs to a minimum, yet no matter how hard you try, every now and again a roach manages to scuttle in under a door or window jamb....,

Ed Dunn said...

I bought some sardines and forgot to get some crackers and ironically I see this troll alias..

Makheru Bradley said...

“What this means, and he is clear about this, is that the institutional racism - of the last 40 years of failed social engineering policy - have enslaved your poor urban negroe cousins more insidiously than Simon Legree.”

As Dr. King would say: "rationalizations and the incessant search for scapegoats are the psychological cataracts which blind people to their sins.”

Bro. Nulan, your attempt to speak for the neanderthal Bundy reflects incredible ignorance of the Holocaust of Afrikan Enslavement, which includes: Contrived wars in Afrika to capture various ethnicities; forced marches to the coast to be held in prisons like Elmina; the largest forced migration in history and the dreaded Middle Passage where one-third of the enslaved perished; Seasoning to strip enslaved Afrikans of their culture; and the daily terrorism of chattel slavery to produce profits for the planter class and the entire United States.”

Part of this profit-driven terror is reflected in a North Carolina Supreme Court ruling against an enslaved Afrikan woman who was shot by a man “renting” her.

“With slavery . . . [t]he end is the profit of the master, his security and the public safety; the subject, one doomed in his own person, and his posterity, to live without knowledge, and without the capacity to make anything his own, and to toil that others may reap the fruits.”

To that history the neanderthal says: “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

In 1860, 90 percent of all Afrikans in America were enslaved, and the buffoon Bundy, says “they got less freedom.” Incredibly a few asinine Negroes are trying to rationalize this ignorance. The depths of our “seasoning” never ceases to amaze.

There is no doubt that “the institutional racism - of the last 40 years” indicates that America has moved into its 3rd cycle of white supremacy, but the harshest aspects of that cycle experienced by many Afrikan American does not compare to the daily terrorism and barbarism of Afrikan enslavement.

CNu said...

So, dispatch some of those race-studies clowns to go an educate the uneducated mormon ranchers out west and voila, problem solved.

Oh, if there's anything else useful that you recommend being done, please, by all means let's hear it?

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