Saturday, December 13, 2014

the integral role of sadistic medical libertines in preserving sham respectability and collective not-seeism...,


theatlantic |  The role of doctors in torture during the War on Terror has been pretty well excavated on the Defense Department side, but the CIA [has some exemptions] from Freedom of Information Act requests, so that’s remained hidden. Essentially the doctors and psychologists were built in to the entire torture system. They weren’t simply bystanders who were called in to respond when the system went off the rails. Some doctors apparently protested this. But they kept their protests inside [the CIA], they never went outside, which they should have done when they saw these types of abuses.

In general, doctors in torture have a couple roles. Number one, they design methods of torture that do not leave scars. For example, the so-called “rectal feeding” which is actually a medieval technique in which the intestines are inflated with a viscous material to cause intestinal pain. The docs are also involved in making sure that the prisoners who weren’t supposed to die didn’t die. The third thing doctors do is they falsify medical records and death certificates to conceal the injuries of torture. [Ed.: Miles has written on this in the context of Abu Ghraib.]

Doctors play a critical role in torture in regimes that don’t want to leave scars, and that includes the United States.

Beck: Why would people use medical knowledge and expertise learned to heal people for the opposite purpose?

Miles: It’s pretty interesting, I’m writing a book on just that question. The docs who get involved in this, number one, are careerists. They get involved for rank and career, and the regimes never coerce them, or extremely rarely coerce them. Instead what happens is the regimes treat them as some kind of elite.

13 comments:

rohan said...

Jefferson County settled on behalf of this piece of garbage now on the Ferguson PD http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/12/justin-cosma-ferguson-police_n_6316630.html

BigDonOne said...

What is all this weepy PC leftist complaining about [Oh dear !!] mistreatment of ruthless Fuzzy conspirators? There is a long list of unsuccessful post-9/11 terrorist plots at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11 e.g., no gassed subways, no dirty bombs, no poisoned water supply's, etc. Count your iq75 blessings that none of yourselves, friends and/or relatives were deleted......

CNu said...

And that's the broken machine we call the "Rule of Law" of "Nation of Laws" in America.

Honestly, how confident are you that the Occupy Black Lives Matter movement has the force and stamina to break the institutional back of this beast?

BigDonOne said...

The Tacoma Police get it. Here's a photo of the back seat of a patrol car...

makheru bradley said...

The entire power structure is as sadistic as it is murderous: water torture is an age-old American tradition, historically practiced domestically, as professor Anne-Marie Cusac discussed in her 2009 book “Cruel and Unusual: The Culture of Punishment in America.” Inmates in CIA custody were also subjected to a horrific practice called “rectal feedings,” which resulted in serious injuries. But similar techniques have been used on U.S. inmates domestically, as this report on torture in American prisons reveals. Inmates in federal and state prisons describe being sodomized by flashlights and even having CHEMICAL FIRE EXTINGUISHERS sprayed inside them.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/ferguson_is_baghdad_is_new_york_is_kabul_20141211

As Chalmers Johnson said, you can't have an empire abroad and a democracy at home. The mere thought is oxymoronic: On Sept. 22, 2014, I again became a victim of Amerikan Nazi prison police. First, Officer Akers sexually harassed the entire unit – most of which is New Afrikan – by conducting a striptease in which we were ordered to “squat and cough and spread your buttocks open,” solely for the sadomasochistic pleasure of Officer Akers. Let me explain that I am in Red Onion State Prison (ROSP), which is a euphemism for koncentration kamp. I protested, and in return for my protest I was put in “five-point restraints,” stark naked into a totally empty cell, just concrete and steel.
http://sfbayview.com/2014/12/16-hours-in-the-torture-chamber/

ken said...

Oh my, looks like Craig is leaving his position of two party one ideology rule for a little partisanship.

ken said...

Is Craig beginning to fade from his position of one ideology 2 party rule to a more partisan stance. I wonder if the arc of anti partisan luster will coincide with rising and eroding of democrat control.

ken said...

If you can see my attempts at posting (waiting for approval) I liked my post on the second attempt better.

CNu said...

lol, I'm sure you did. Since neither addressed the facts at hand, or furthered your highly-suspect lying contention that Pres. Obama "reserved the right" to carry on wrecked'em's rough-trade rump-rangering ways - what's the point?

Instead of poking out your lip at me and parroting stupid talking points, (struggley Matthews/Axelrod video) try and grasp the fact that this administration lacks the testicular fortitude and moral rectitude to prosecute the rampant war crimes of its predecessor. Further, comprehend that that flagrant violation of the "Rule of Law" is the only relevant expression of two parties, one ideology that you need to see.

One needn't be a pack of filthy prison rapists like Bush-Cheney to be rotten to the core. It's enough to know they were lawless - and not do anything about it. Oh, and uh.., accept the fact that your partisanship is in support of filthy prison-rapists and cop-executioners, and, that that's what it means to be a not-see Ken. Own that shit son, particularly when you get caught red-handed representing on behalf of it!

ken said...

"Oh, and uh.., accept the fact that your partisanship is in support of filthy prison-rapists and cop-executioners, and, that that's what it means to be a not-see Ken."

You've been pointing this not-see finger for some time, and now even have a title -- "how could ken blah, blah", just for your reveiw:


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/force-feeding-gitmo-obamas-torture-debate/story?id=27531783



Its not a matter of testicular fortitude of being able to prosecute Bush, but then prosecute himself for signing on to the rectal feeding, and taking it further of having a policy of taking no prisoners but instead killing suspected enemy combatants and whoever else is in the building or at the funeral with them in drone attacks. Its clear in Obama's administration he doesn't find it illegal.


The democrat campaigners criticize republican presidents until they presidential get presidential info themselves. Likely your memory has slipped in remembering how campaigner Clinton tore into G.H Bush everyday about turning back Haiti refugees only to have President Clinton also turn back Haiti refugees. Campaigner Obama talks about torture and ending wars telling how he will be different and better, only to continue the same, authorize his own surge, and increase drone killings as president Obama. Perhaps there is presidential information that we don't get see that factors in to the decisions of the president.


With all your accusations of "not-see" and your claim of being a above the fray of partisanship, you raise the expectation we are going see some valuable thoughtful revelation around the issues that rule the day. Instead we maybe just end up with a little less one sided perspective than MSNBC. Your defining of my position in the quote I posted from your post above is an example of how vacuous you are at defining my position. Its a way of defining we would expect from any run of the mill raging partisan hack.


Your inability to look at an issue in the entire context and explore all of its nuances, calls attention to one of my early reveals, the one calling everyone else a liar probably is a liar, it could easily transition the one calling everyone else a "not-see" is....

CNu said...

lol, quit clowning.

Do all your arguments depend on a counterpart's either being too lazy or too stupid to pay attention?

Forced-feeding under Obama is a nose tube infusing Ensure into the prisoner's stomach - while prison rape under Dick Wrecked'em consisted of funneling pureed food into an unwilling prisoner's colon. How many times do we need to go over the difference?

As for the irrelevant rest, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..., you didn't offer a position. You offered a fatuous David Axelrod soundbyte dispositive of exactly nothing.

Ken, if you're not an incompetent liar and partisan hack, you're simply too stupid to keep track of the factual and logical particulars you parrot hereabouts. Mebbe you better save your hot-air for the IQ-75 creationist losers ready to sponge up mass quantities of magical thinking nonsense.

ken said...

I believe you are the one using terms like "rape" for the over the top term today. You also fault Bush and Cheney for the rectum feeding, when Cheney who has not been shy or apologetic for the interrogation methods has said the rectum feeding was not an approved tactic. The involuntary feeding through the nose, since you so desire to keep using the word is also rape. There are many who love having things put up their behinds and enjoy it. Meanwhile it seems no one is taking the same pleasures jamming things up their nose.

CNu said...

rotflmbao...., STAHHHHP!!!!

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