Friday, December 12, 2014

learned helplessness the goal of dick wrecked'em's patriot games....,

NYTimes |  The dogs wouldn’t jump. All they had to do to avoid electric shocks was leap over a small barrier, but there they sat in boxes in a lab at the University of Pennsylvania, passive and whining.

They had previously been given a series of mild shocks and learned they could do nothing to stop them. Now, they had given up trying. In the words of the scientists, they had “learned helplessness.”

The release of a Senate report on interrogation techniques used by the Central Intelligence Agency has revived interest in that study, one of the most classic experiments in modern psychology. It and others like it, performed in the 1960s, became the basis for an influential theory about depression and informed the development of effective talk therapies.
Nearly a half-century later, a pair of military psychologists became convinced that the theory provided a basis for brutal interrogation techniques, including waterboarding, that were supposed to eliminate detainees’ “sense of control and predictability” and induce “a desired level of helplessness,” the Senate report said. The architects of the C.I.A.'s interrogation program have been identified as James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen.

“My impression is that they misread the theory,” said Dr. Charles A. Morgan III, a psychiatrist at the University of New Haven who met Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Jessen while studying the effects of stress on American troops. “They’re not really scientists.”

One of the researchers who conducted the initial studies on dogs, the prominent psychologist Martin E. P. Seligman, said he was “grieved and horrified” that his work was cited to justify the abusive interrogations.

It is not the first time that academic research has been used for brutal interrogations, experts said. After the Second World War, the intelligence community began to study methods of interrogation, often financing outside psychiatrists and psychologists.

“A lot of the early work came out of psychoanalysis,” or Freudian thinking, said Steven Reisner, a psychologist in New York and co-founder of the Coalition for an Ethical Psychology, which opposes the profession’s participation in coercive interrogations. “Studies of sensory deprivation and sleep deprivation induced a psychosis, in which people lost control of what they said and what they thought.” At that point they might begin to cooperate — or so the theory went, Mr. Reisner said.


makheru bradley said...

LOL, some of those who hate or hated us the most, like JEH, traveled, or were driven straight up the chocolate highway on the regular.

CNu said...

Ken, wtf kind of extreme not-see struggling are you attempting to perpetrate here? Now I realize it's vitally important to you to pretend that the administration you loved and unquestioningly supported wasn't a pack of filthy, nasty, sadistic prison rapists operating under color of authority, but that simply isn't the truth. Oh, and just because some penny-ante lawyers from Bob Jones "university" said that prison rape is "legal" doesn't make it so.

So stop before you power-wash away the very last little grain of credibility you might occasionally be acceded hereabouts.

I finally watched that silly snippet between Chris Matthews and David Axelrod, and I read the list of Bob Jones "university" lawyer approved prison rape methods you're desperately pretending that Pres. Obama reserved for himself, after, Pres. Obama ordered that all further Bush administration prison-rape methods be discontinued and disavowed.

After watching and reading, here's what I see from the pathetic fig-leaf you held up in defense of Dick Wrecked'em Cheney and Shrub. I quote Marcellus Wallace channeling Pres. Obama nah man, I'm pretty fucking far from okay

Vic78 said...

Chris Mathews Has an inordinate love for a strong man. You can see it when he talks about Reagan or when Bush did his Mission Accomplished show.

rohan said...

What I need for somebody to come out and say and don't get me wrong brah, you been drawing a big red circle around it for weeks now is that there's a psychotic criminal gang embedded in the military/intelligence complex that's COMPLETELY exempt from any possibility of indictment, prosecution, or accountability under law.

That's what these ongoing protests out in the street are about, the cluster of fucks from wall street, to the pentagon, the police precincts and unions, who effectively control the law and constantly place themselves outside its application and use.

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