Sunday, December 07, 2014

are overseers killing folks like hotcakes and lying about it?

pbs |  HARI SREENIVASAN: The nation’s been focused on Staten Island, Ferguson, and Cleveland in the last few weeks as citizens and law enforcement assess how they have and how they should deal with one another.

This as a new investigation by the The Wall Street Journal reveals that accounting for killings by police might be grossly underestimated.

Wall Street Journal reporter Rob Barry joins us now. So, how did you do your reporting, and what did you find?

ROB BARRY: Thanks for having me. What we did was we asked about 105 departments to give us the number of people who have been killed over a five or six year period.

And we compared those numbers to what had reported to the FBI. And we found that there was a lot of stuff that wasn’t in the FBI’s information.

HARI SREENIVASAN: You said that at least 550 police killings between 2007 and 2012 never made it onto the books?

ROB BARRY: Yeah, and that’s only among the top 105, 110 largest agencies in the country.
So there’s 18,000 jurisdictions. So you know, that’s just a small estimate of the total.

HARI SREENIVASAN: OK, so for example, some jurisdictions could call something a justifiable homicide versus an unjustifiable homicide? Discrepancies in definitions? What do you mean?

ROB BARRY: Yes, it was a wide range of things. That was certainly one of the issues there, that what we’re dealing with here are essentially crime reports.

And agencies who are forced to report information about unfortunate events where officers take someone’s life. They don’t really want to include that in a crime report.

It’s not a crime in their eyes. It was a justifiable event. 


BigDonOne said...

...Most of these "killed by overseer" folks were low-life street scum up to no good that society was better off without anyway. Consider it a form of "due process."

OK, BD knows what yer thinkin'...what about those few honest upstanding pillars of the community that were also inadvertently killed by cops? putting that in perspective -- during WW2, ~400,000 red-blooded *innocent* All-American men were killed defending our way of life. Draftees, wrong place at wrong time, but certainly not deserving to die. It's a price paid in order that polite society can remain civilized.....ditto for the few really innocent accidentally killed by cops....

InfoWars had a good one about East St. Louis where iq75 is so bad the police have virtually given up. It's what happens when there are *NO* folks left willing to do the ugly job of policing low-life street scum......American Mogadishu.

Then there was another one about NYC cops unwilling to look for a lost kid because they were too busy dealing with misguided demonstrators. Could have been *your* kid or *your* spouse that was missing......

PC Lefty Liberalism run amok....

makheru bradley said...

White moderates like de Blasio and Obama are only interested in order, not justice.

“The riots are caused by nice, gentle, timid white moderates who are more concerned about order than justice. The policy-makers of the white society have caused the darkness: they created discrimination; they created slums; they perpetuate unemployment, ignorance, and poverty. It is incontestable and deplorable that Negroes have committed crimes, but they are derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of white society.” -- Dr. Martin L. King, Jr.

They are masters of the rhetorical ethic.

“Within the nature of European culture there exists a statement of value or of ‘moral’ behavior that has no meaning for the members of that culture. I call this the ‘rhetorical ethic;’ it is of great importance for the understanding of the dynamics of the culture… It is an inherent characteristic of the culture that it prepares members of the culture to be able to act like friends toward those they regard as enemies; to be able to convince others that they have come to help when they, in fact, have come to destroy the others and their culture. That some may ‘believe’ that they are actually doing good only makes them more dangerous… The European rhetorical ethic is precisely that-purely rhetorical- and, as such, has its own origins as a creation for export; i.e., for the political, intercultural activity of the European. It is designed to create an image that will prevent others from successfully anticipating European behavior, and its objective is to encourage nonstrategic (i.e., naive, rather than successful) political behavior on the part of others... It is designed to sell, to dupe, to promote European nationalistic objectives. It ‘packages’ European cultural imperialism in a wrapping that makes it appear more attractive, less harmful… European culture is constructed in such a way that successful survival within it discourages honesty and directness and encourages dishonesty and deceit-the ability to appear to be something other than what one is; to hide one's ‘self,’ one's motives and intent. People who are duped by others and relate to a projected image are considered fools…” -- Dr. Marimba Ani

makheru bradley said...

Rhetorical ethic: "It’s important to recognize, as painful as these incidents are, we can’t equate what is happening now to what was happening 50 years ago. And if you talk to your parents, grandparents, uncles, they’ll tell you that things are better. Not good, in some cases, but better." — President Barack Obama,speaking on racism in America, in an interview with BET News set to air Monday night.


CNu said...

Re Berkeley - "protesters turn violent", "violent protests" - blah, blah, blah, blah, blah in the MSM. Whaddaya bet the overseers instigated confrontations through their troop movements, hemming people in and provoking physical altercations?

Constructive_Feedback said...

In tribute to our friend : Denmark Vessey:

CNu - Is going along with the Hegelian Head Fake

Notice how we are asked to focus on DOMESTIC POLICE VIOLENCE, sir, with the FEDERAL ATTORNEY GENERAL leveraging his POWER to correct "4 centuries of Racism" in America.

NO I did not say that the Killings of Mike Brown and Eric Garner were staged.

MOST ASSUREDLY the RESPONSE is going according to plan.

Just imagine if the "Two Negro Police Men" From East Point Georgia that tazed a Black man to death in the Spring of 2014 was included in this "Social Justice Rally"? Would this ELEVATE or DISTRACT the "Voltage" of the "Moment That Needs To Turn Into A Movement"?

Enter - Al Sharpton and the rest of the Civil Rights Pharisees with "White House Express Passes".

The formerly lily White "Sunday Morning Talk Shows" are now DIVERSE as the "Stakeholders In Social Justice" have the nation FOCUSED ON SELECTED "NINJAS WHO GOT THEMSELVES KILT".

Never before in this nation's history has the "Federal Government" conspired with the "Civil Rights Pharisees" - WHILE FLAMES of burning structures add "Global Warming Soot" to the environment - the OFFICIAL SPOKESMEN OF SOCIAL JUSTICE are carefully never to outright CONDEMN those with the MATCHES and those who INSPIRED THEM.

Now the Confidence Men are talking about JOBS to assuage the "Looters". After a few weeks of uncontrolled burning timbers - NOW - the TRUE FACE of the movement is showing through the facade:

The lead confidence man asking: "How can you BLOCK A FEDERAL JOBS PROGRAM (from Obama) and expect that the people won't turn to violent protests because they have gotten shut out".

Pavolv's dog is being told : "When we light a fire from our Bic lighter you had better respond to our demands UP FRONT or else we'll be forced to put the flame under your butt again - to condition your response."