House Judiciary Subcommittee on Weaponization of the Federal Government

00:00:03		You? Yeah, I never received it the US. So. Ok. Oh, so
00:01:37		the chair is authorized to declare a recess at any time. We welcome everyone to today's hearing. The chair now recognizes the gentle lady from Florida...  Show Full Text
00:01:52		pledge elections to the flag, the street somewhere. What under so from? Yes,
00:02:08		I thank the lady for leading us without objection. Mr Roy will be permitted to participate in this hearing. The chair. Now recognize himself for an opening...  Show Full Text
00:08:58		Thank you, Mr Chair and good morning to everyone. Just have some administrative matters first. I wanted to introduce him to the record page 50 fif 55...  Show Full Text
00:21:30		back generally yields back. I've been asking him consent to enter into the record from page 29 of Miss Delos testimony from three days ago. Question,...  Show Full Text
00:23:05		Thank the chairman, Robert F. Kennedy junior is the son of former Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy and the nephew of America's 35th president, John...  Show Full Text
00:25:26		I thank the gentleman Mr Kennedy. We're glad you were here. We will now proceed with gold statement. But before I do, I want to introduce the guy...  Show Full Text
00:26:04		Chairman, are you gonna in the witnesses?
00:26:10		You please stand and raise your right hand. Do you swear our firm? Do you swear our firm under penalty of perjury that the testimony you're about to...  Show Full Text
00:26:34		He goes to,
00:26:36		he's gonna go a
00:26:38		little longer, excuse me. Point of order. I know that witnesses usually have five minutes. I see 10 minutes on the board. Is it going to be 10 minutes?
00:26:46		Five minutes? But we're, we're pretty lax with this. Uh We'll let him go for,
00:26:51		I've seen him gavel down on quite a number
00:26:54		of witnesses, senators and former Democrat members of Congress and all kinds of people. I, I'm just saying in past history. Ok, we'll, we'll give...  Show Full Text
00:27:04		time for all the witnesses
00:27:05		and if you want to cut him off and censor him some more, you're welcome to do
00:27:08		it. Oh, that's not my job. That's, that's your job. Why don't you threaten the witness so that they can do not want to be a witness is
00:27:15		recognized for his opening statement. We'll give him five minutes more or less and then we'll move to the next one, Mr Kennedy. Go right ahead.
00:27:26		Thank you, Mr Chairman, Mr Chairman. Maybe we could put five minutes on the clock then not 10.
00:27:32		Could we, could we put five on the clock and we'll start it running?
00:27:41		Thank you, Mr Chairman. And I, I wanna, I wanna start, I wanna put aside my written state and for a moment and address one of the points that was...  Show Full Text
00:38:36		a motion or speech.
00:38:37		And I've made a motion to move into executive session because Mr Kennedy's testimony, Mr Chairman
00:38:45		gentleman from Kentucky has moved the table.
00:38:49		Mr Chairman, I asked for a roll call vote on the, on the motion
00:38:52		to table. Well, let me ask the question. The question is on the motion to table. The general lady has asked for a roll call vote. The clerk will have...  Show Full Text
00:39:05		witnesses can sit in the chair sitting behind.
00:39:10		I'll leave that up to the clerks if the clerks are comfortable with that. Yeah. Why don't we do that? Maybe we can go right down here, Mr
00:39:20		Mr Mr Chairman Point of Order.
00:39:22		Gentleman from
00:39:23		Louisiana. Is it the custom of this committee to censor viewpoints that we disagree with from witness
00:39:28		chair? Not a point of order on the table.
00:39:31		There's a motion and the boat's moving
00:39:36		is
00:39:38		waiting for the clerk. Clerk will call the roll, Mr Jordan.
00:39:44		Mr Jordan votes. Yes, Mr Isa Mr Massey.
00:39:49		Yes to not censor
00:39:51		Mr Massey votes. Yes, Mr Stewart Mr Stewart votes. Yes, Mr Mr Votes. Yes, Mr Gates, Mr Johnson of Louisiana, Mr Johnson of Louisiana votes. Yes,...  Show Full Text
00:40:17		Pasco. No, I want to follow the rules that the Republicans made at the beginning of this uh conference with these house rules. So no, Miss
00:40:27		Pasco votes. No, Mr Lynch, Mr Lynch votes. No, Miss Sanchez. No,
00:40:32		because it's violative of the rules
00:40:34		MS Sanchez votes. No, Miss Wasserman Schultz. No,
00:40:37		to allowing a witness to degrade, not violate the rules and not have his testimony and degradation and amplified rather than given an executive
00:40:48		session was votes. No Mr Connolly Mr Connolly votes. No Mr Gardi, Mr Gardi votes. No, Mr Allred MS Garcia. No MS Garcia votes. No Mr Goldman. No...  Show Full Text
00:41:10		Mr Gates.
00:41:11		Yes, Mr Gates. Mr Gates votes. I clerk will report Mr Chairman. There are 10 eyes and eight nos.
00:41:29		Uh the motion to table is agreed to, we will now move to our second witness. Uh Miss Morris, you are recognized for five minutes.
00:41:47		Thank you. Thanks so much for inviting me. Um My name is Emma Joe Morris, uh politics editor at Breitbart. Um I'm here today because I published a...  Show Full Text
00:47:23		Thank you, Miss Morris Mr Sourer. You were recognized for five minutes.
00:47:29		Thank you, Mr Chairman and members of the subcommittee on July 4th 2023 Independence Day. Judge Terry, a doughty of the US district court for the western...  Show Full Text
00:52:47		Thank you, Mr Sour MS Wiley. You recognize me,
00:52:56		microphone,
00:53:01		I'm usually quite loud, but thank you for pointing that out. Chair Jordan ranking member Plaskett members of the subcommittee. I want to thank you for...  Show Full Text
00:58:47		General Lady Yields back. We now turn to a five minute question. The chair recognizes the gentleman from North Carolina, Mr Bishop for five minutes...  Show Full Text
00:58:59		Mr Chairman. I'm going to focus on the testimony the chairman made reference to and that the ranking member was so concerned with damage control that she...  Show Full Text
01:02:40		Um Yeah, I know we know that the FBI knew that it was real. Uh They knew it was real since not just December 2019. When um is which is when the subpoena...  Show Full Text
01:04:08		well taken M Morris and my time has expired. But what we have always understood in all likelihood, it was true yet, we now have yet one more piece...  Show Full Text
01:04:31		gentleman is back, don't recognize the ranking member for five minutes and I think we'll do a ranking member and one more and then we'll have to...  Show Full Text
01:04:38		Thank you, Mr Chairman. Um I know that we talked earlier about a post that Mr Kennedy had at the beginning of the Biden administration. I just want the...  Show Full Text
01:11:11		time of the gentle lady, time the gentle lady has expired. Gent lady yields back. The gentleman from North Dakota is recognized. Thank you Mr...  Show Full Text
01:11:20		Massey. I thank the gentleman from North Dakota. Wow. The irony and cognitive dissonance from the other side of the aisle, it's deafening. You could cut...  Show Full Text
01:13:56		You belongs
01:13:56		to the gentle belongs to the gentleman.
01:14:00		I denounce that theory. It is racist and I have never endorsed it or had any association with it. Our film on a medical Bill Buxton who is the Black...  Show Full Text
01:14:50		the witness's time.
01:14:51		Do not censor
01:14:52		the witness. I'm not the, I'm not. It
01:14:56		is. It's my time and I've given it to the witness. Do not censor him if the views that you and others have applied to me, I've attributed to me if...  Show Full Text
01:17:00		You. Gentleman yields back to
01:17:02		chairman of a unanimous consent motion before we head to see from
01:17:05		the gentleman from New York.
01:17:06		Uh I would like to introduce uh, page two of the transcript of Laura Dem where, uh specifically she says if someone, she's asked if someone were to leave...  Show Full Text
01:17:47		objection. I think that's already been introduced, but without objection, we'll do it again. Stand in recess, we stand in recess for approximately 40...  Show Full Text
01:18:03		Well, uh I'm not sure I've seen Council. What? Yeah, I get it here. Put on. Ok, I, as we the I, I'll see you later. Right. Thank...  Show Full Text
01:58:39		Maybe we will come to order the the chair recognizes the gentleman from Florida.
01:58:42		Mr Chairman. I have a point of order, Mr Chairman, I have a point of order
01:58:47		gently considered a point of order.
01:58:49		Thank you, Mr Chairman Mr chairman, I just missed two votes on the house floor because we were not given them. We did not recess on time. I think many...  Show Full Text
01:58:58		probably properly state a point of order
01:59:02		is what is the intent of the chair in the future recesses to avoid the censorship of the voice of my constituents because I was not able to their...  Show Full Text
01:59:17		actually the chair recognizes the gentleman from Massachusetts for his five minutes.
01:59:22		Mr Chairman, may I introduce um some ask unanimous consent introduced uh an article from we are June 8th, 2021 discussing the film, medical racism...  Show Full Text
01:59:46		without objection. Uh uh We'll be entering the record of the chairman as the gentleman from Massachusetts for his five minutes.
01:59:51		Thank you, Mr Chairman Mr Chair. One of the saddest parts of this fabricated circus of outrage is the drumbeat of attacks that I have seen against the...  Show Full Text
02:04:09		ok. Unfortunately, unfortunately, Congressman, there's more than one impact, one impact. That's very clear and obvious. Sadly, for far too many is that...  Show Full Text
02:05:39		gentleman from Massachusetts, the chair, recognized gentleman from Florida. Mr Gates. You and Mr Roy Roy is recognized for, I thank
02:05:45		the gentleman from Florida. I think the chairman Mr Kennedy. First of all, your father served as the Attorney General of the United States. I'm a former...  Show Full Text
02:06:09		Bye. Make sure your microphone, your
02:06:13		microphone. That is exactly the function that the United States Constitution is signed to the people of to the members of Congress. And you know,...  Show Full Text
02:11:55		Time. And the gentlemen, you back time and gentlemen inspire the gentle from California is recognized for five
02:11:59		minutes. Thank you, Chairman and ranking member Plaskett. During the height of COVID-19, the COVID-19 pandemic anti Asian hate and violence skyrocketed...  Show Full Text
02:17:39		Mr Chairman, the Democrat beforehand got an extra minute, her
02:17:42		sentence trying to
02:17:43		be generous and her sentence generous. Even when the response is that the government determines the truth. I
02:17:48		would like for her to be able to finish her sentence, Mr Chairman, then I will yield
02:17:52		back. Ok, Miss Wiley, you can finish your sentence.
02:17:54		Thank you. I'm not sure I remember the sentence but thank you. I just think the point was it
02:17:58		was you were saying the government should be the arbiter, not
02:18:01		put words into the mouth of the witness and let her respond
02:18:04		it now from New York, the general lady from California. I
02:18:08		love how you follow the rules. Mr Chairman. It's really indicative of a decision by the chair. It's censorship by the chair.
02:18:18		Thank you, Mr
02:18:19		Chairman. Thank you, Mr Chairman MS Morris. Isn't it true that your October 2020 Hunter Biden laptop from hell story has proven to be 100% factually accurate....  Show Full Text
02:20:55		Yeah, I, I think, I think democracy is dependent on the free flow of information. And if we, if that information is distorted, if the public is lied...  Show Full Text
02:21:24		And Mr Kennedy, I want to ask you specifically about the Hunter Biden laptop story. The total blackout on all social media outlets as well as telecom....  Show Full Text
02:21:46		I don't know enough about it. I know that uh there was censorship on that story and other stories that, uh, you know, presumably could have changed people's...  Show Full Text
02:22:01		And we know the polling demonstrates that now people have said they would have changed their vote, had they been made aware of the Hunter Biden laptop...  Show Full Text
02:22:10		aware of that, but I'm not surprised.
02:22:12		Um Mr Sauer, uh I want to turn to you. Um, you II I want your reflection on this form of government censorship specifically in the 2020 election as...  Show Full Text
02:22:36		I strongly agree with your characterization of that form of censorship as election interference. The evidence in our case strongly supports that it strongly...  Show Full Text
02:23:34		Mr Chairman.
02:23:35		I have a unanimous consent request.
02:23:38		Young lady from California is recognized for her name's consent.
02:23:41		My majority counterparts have repeatedly cited a district court opinion from Louisiana and I would like to introduce for the record. The Fifth Circuit...  Show Full Text
02:23:51		issued objection. The chair now recognizes the gentle lady for a point of order. Mr Chairman, gentleman from New York is
02:23:56		recognized, the distinguished gentle lady from New York mentioned a poll. Um I would just ask that she identify what poll that is and if we could enter...  Show Full Text
02:24:13		it. Uh, the chair now recognizes that lady from Florida M Washer.
02:24:17		Thank you, Mr Chairman Mr Chairman. We respectfully requested that you rescind Mr Kennedy's invitation to appear here due to his repeated and very recent...  Show Full Text
02:26:24		seconds
02:26:26		entering me correctly dishonest myself. I'd like 15 seconds back. We will be happy to give you that. Thank you so much. You did not cite any study...  Show Full Text
02:29:58		Gentleman from Kentucky is recognized for UC, I
02:30:00		ask unanimous consent to introduce into the record to study that Mr Kennedy just referenced new insights into genetic susceptibility of COVID-19. Uh...  Show Full Text
02:31:04		the gentleman from Utah
02:31:09		and Fair, Azi Jews and Chinese people. That is,
02:31:13		thank you, claiming my time, Mr Kennedy. You've had uh some accusations uh thrown at you today. I'm gonna ask my questions briefly and give you a chance...  Show Full Text
02:36:56		on
02:36:57		Mr Chairman. I have a unanimous consent request. Lady from New York recognized. I'd like to submit for the record tip insight to New Jersey based Institute...  Show Full Text
02:37:24		for the record. That objection. Thank you. The gentleman from Virginia is recognized for five minutes.
02:37:29		Thank you, Mr Chairman. I've been in this congress 15 years and I never thought we'd descend to this level of Orwellian dystopia.
02:37:44		This is the
02:37:46		suddenly the tools of the trade are not to get at the truth, but to distract, distort, deflect and dissemble. To disagree is censorship to try to correct...  Show Full Text
02:42:18		Uh Thank you. Thank you, the distinguished gentleman from Virginia. We don't have uh a lot of time to dig into questions. Um But I would just note...  Show Full Text
02:42:50		gentleman yields back the chair now recognizes Mr Johnson from Louisiana. I'm so
02:42:54		grateful for that segue from Mr Golden because we're about to talk about hard evidence here. It's really ironic. This hearing is covering the left censorship...  Show Full Text
02:48:05		gentleman yields back. The chair now recognizes Mr Allred from Texas for his five minutes. Thank you, Mr Chairman. I yield my time
02:48:13		to MS Blaske and I thank the gentleman from Texas. Mr Kennedy and others here are claiming that they've been censored, but they actually have a...  Show Full Text
02:52:21		and I, uh, yield remain of the
02:52:23		lady yields back. Um, I now recognize Mr Stuy from, uh Florida for his five minutes,
02:52:30		Mr Kennedy. Do you want to respond to that? Can you do that quickly? Yeah, I've
02:52:33		never heard of Mr Balls and I've never heard of that super pac. This is typical of the accusations against me at this hearing. They are baseless. Every...  Show Full Text
02:53:14		uh to further the disinformation going on. Uh M Wiley. In response to a question, you stated that the decision in Missouri V. Biden was vacated by...  Show Full Text
02:53:26		I did and I want to correct that because Mr so is right, the appropriate word is stayed,
02:53:30		administratively stayed. So it hasn't been vacated or dismissed like Mrs Sanchez stayed,
02:53:34		which means it cannot be implemented right now. Ok.
02:53:37		Because you know, I didn't want us to censor your disinformation that you stated as a factual assertion earlier. So I did
02:53:43		misspeak and I
02:53:44		apologize. Thank you for clarifying that for us and to talk about more evidence about. I think it's interesting, there's a lot in this opinion and I just,...  Show Full Text
02:56:50		It's very telling that the judicial findings are quite specific on the specific threats. So there's several ways you can violate the first amendment if...  Show Full Text
02:57:56		I'm the gentleman that's expired
02:57:58		chairman of unanimous consent requests. Gentleman from Louisiana. There's a lot of talk about this uh preliminary injunction. So I'd like to enter...  Show Full Text
02:58:21		back uh with, without objection,
02:58:23		Mr Chair, I'd like the unanimous consent to enter into the record an article um that says pro Frfk Junior Super PAC has deep ties to Marjorie Taylor...  Show Full Text
02:58:50		objection. Uh The, the chair now recognizes the uh general Lady from Texas, I believe. Is, is that the Thank
02:58:56		you, thank you Mr Chairman and um I live in Houston but I was born and raised in rural South Texas, uh, and shamefully rural South Texas, uh, and...  Show Full Text
03:04:16		The gentle lady has expired the chair now recognizes the gentle lady from Wyoming M ha.
03:04:21		I got a death threat after the last here
03:04:24		I belong to the G A from Wyoming.
03:04:27		I want to thank you, Mr Sauer, MS Morris and Mr Kennedy for your courage for your willingness to be the tip of the spear to protect all of our first...  Show Full Text
03:09:46		General Lady back. The gentleman from you a good one. Uh The chair now recognizes the gentle lady from uh Florida. Miss kick
03:10:09		my microphone is broken.
03:10:11		Tell you my phone broke. Um This maybe you over.
03:10:14		Yeah, sorry. The microphone is broken. Wait, that might work. OK. All right. Sorry. This microphone is broken. Want to thank all our witnesses for being...  Show Full Text
03:10:53		Oh, I, I, I believe that there is a distinction between uh any conversation about a government versus a group of people.
03:11:06		So do you believe that each of my Democratic colleagues should publicly denounce her comments, not continue to give her a platform to make statements like...  Show Full Text
03:15:19		It's, it's just this, I can't even believe this is a conversation like this is not controversial or taboo. We live in the United States of America and...  Show Full Text
03:15:32		Mr Kennedy, a government that can censor its critics as licensed for every atrocity. It is the beginning of totalitarianism. There's never been a time...  Show Full Text
03:16:04		and I know my time has expired. But Mr Sara, you said earlier, censorship is about power. Censorship is about control and the entire progressive leftist...  Show Full Text
03:16:20		yields back. Gentleman from New York is recognized,
03:16:22		Mr Before that I have um a document I'd like to enter into the record or Washington Post article of July 23rd, which lists the misstates misstatements...  Show Full Text
03:16:39		about for what, what
03:16:41		I said, the Washington Post,
03:16:43		that gentleman from New York. Thank you,
03:16:46		Mr Chairman Mr Sower. Welcome back to the committee. It's great to see you again. You're becoming a mainstay on the committee. And I do hope that you...  Show Full Text
03:17:12		COVID-19 is targeted to attack uh Caucasians and, and uh and uh black people, the people who have most here are asking Jews and uh and Chinese
03:17:29		Mr Kennedy, I have a simple question for you as a early victim of COVID. I actually got it uh March 10th 2020. And, and my question to you is whether...  Show Full Text
03:17:49		No, not at all. And that statement that you saw there is a truncated version of a larger state.
03:17:58		I understand you you issued
03:18:01		it would
03:18:02		hold on. I just, I got now going on reclaiming my time because what I really want to talk about here is evidence, evidence, evidence, evidence Mr...  Show Full Text
03:22:16		back. Gentleman yields back the chair and not recognize himself hard evidence. Mr Johnson said that we're not only witnesses to censorship, we were...  Show Full Text
03:22:50		I remember when the ac lu represented Nazis who they, who they were appalled
03:22:58		by, appalled, disgusted by and yet they would defend the crazy things they said, right? That that's how much the first amendment meant to him. Right....  Show Full Text
03:25:56		Oh, well, you know what I would say is that the, the, the founders of our, and the framers of our constitution knew that democracy was a very inefficient...  Show Full Text
03:27:18		example. Exactly. I couldn't have said it better. I recognize the gentleman from uh
03:27:23		Mr Chairman. I have a unanimous consent request. Gentlemen said a request uh as for unanimous consent to entered the record, an article by the New...  Show Full Text
03:27:40		consent without objection. Uh Some, some things amaze me. Uh the gentleman from Kentucky is recognized and this is uh this will be our, our, our last...  Show Full Text
03:27:51		immutable and undeniable, uh tenets of immunology is natural immunity, but for two years, it was denied, it wasn't even just denied. It was censored....  Show Full Text
03:28:26		Yes, that kind of censorship was going on and there were direct communications between the platforms and federal officials about natural immunity specifically...  Show Full Text
03:28:36		thanks to the Twitter files, we found out that the former FDA director who was on the board of pfizer is Doctor Scott Gottlieb wrote on August 27th,...  Show Full Text
03:33:54		comments from the time the gentleman has expired. I, I may I have, I have 11 other question I can ask, but I, I would first give you a chance...  Show Full Text
03:34:14		I wasn't prepared for that. So I
03:34:17		thought, I thought I was gonna get 15 seconds for Mr Massey, but we aren't able to do that.
03:34:21		Thank you, sir. Um I did want to ask Miss Wiley regarding we had a discussion and it was brought up by one of the witnesses um related to the website...  Show Full Text
03:35:47		Thank you. Actually, I'm gonna let Mr Johnson have our, our one minute here, but I think he wants to wait for Mr Kennedy to, well,
03:35:55		I can be asking to Mr Sour. Um I'm sorry that Mr Goldman left because we talked a lot about evidence. Isn't it true in your litigation? Missouri...  Show Full Text
03:37:03		gentlemen, yields back. Um, I want to thank our witnesses for being here today. We appreciate the work you're doing to, to defend the First Amendment....  Show Full Text
03:37:31		not want Mr Chair.
03:37:35		I don't, I haven't adjourned the hearing and I don't think you're the chair, Mr
03:37:39		Chair, I
03:37:42		chairman's discretion.
03:37:45		He has had so much additional time. Well, I think why, why, why are you doing that specifically for him? Because
03:37:55		I'm sure there was Super Pac. I be as short as he possibly
03:38:00		can. Are you going to allow our witness to just give another
03:38:04		piece? No, let him address the comment that was made about him. That's untrue
03:38:08		was not defamatory. That is a legal definition that was not met. I want
03:38:14		information about the Super Pac that you mentioned. Go ahead. I've just been told that that Super Pac is connected to somebody that we have a connection...  Show Full Text
03:38:33		Thank the gentleman uh for uh that statement and I thank you for your testimony. The committee is now adjourned.
03:39:12		Has to. Exactly. So a life, you know. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, we, you guys right to come. Thank you much. Thank you. OK. I'm just...  Show Full Text

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