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rev  |   Donald Trump (18:39):

But that was the lowest point ever recorded. It was a really, I mean, I was very proud of those numbers. And then you see what happened with these people, Kamala and Joe, you see what happened. They just let it go. I remain in Mexico policies. I had all these different policies that were so good. Guys like Tom Holman and Brandon Judd from Border Patrol. These are all people that they’ve been on television. They say it’s the best numbers we’ve ever had. We had so many different checks, catch and release in Mexico, not the United, we had catch and release in the United States. We had it in Mexico. We had so many things.

(19:16)
We had things where if many people come in there, they have contagious diseases. We had everything passed. If you have a contagious disease, I’m sorry, but we cannot allow you into the country. So we were setting literally records. And all I was doing is showing that. And I used it sometimes. And in this case, I’m glad I used it. I can tell you that. But there were fantastic numbers. But I’m going to sleep with that chart always. I’ll be sleeping with that chart. That chart was very important, very important for a lot of reasons.

Elon Musk (19:54):

Would it be accurate to say that you’re supportive of legal immigration, but we obviously need to shut down illegal immigration, and especially unvetted illegal immigration?

Donald Trump (20:06):

Yes.

Elon Musk (20:06):

And that’s not the same as saying that everyone who’s an illegal immigrant is bad. In fact, I think most people who are illegal immigrants are actually good. But you can’t tell a difference unless there’s a solid vetting of who comes across the border.

Donald Trump (20:19):

100%.

Elon Musk (20:20):

Does that actually represent your position?

Donald Trump (20:22):

I say it very simply. They have to come in legally. They have to be checked.

Elon Musk (20:27):

Yeah.

Donald Trump (20:27):

Because look, Kamala was the Border Czar. Now she’s denying it. Everything that I do, she’s saying she was strong on the border, we’re going to be strong. Well, she doesn’t have to say it. She could close it up right now. They could do things right now. It is horrible. No tax on tips. And all of a sudden she’s making a speech, she’s saying, “There will be no tax on tips.” I said that months ago. And by the way, they had just the opposite. They had not only tax on tips, but they hired 88,000 IRS agents. And many of them were assigned to go get waitresses and caddies and all of this on tips. They have a policy. They had a policy, they were really going to go after you and we’re really harassing people horribly. And then all of a sudden for politics, she comes out with what I said, which I think is terrible.

(21:14)
And I think it’s also hitting them very hard. These people are fake. Now they’re also saying they did a good job in the border. We had the worst numbers in the history of the world, not of our country. There’s never been a country in history that has had a catastrophe like this. We’ve had, I believe, and I think you believe this too, you hear 12 million, 13, I believe it’s over 20 million people came into our country. Many coming from jails, from prisons, from mental institutions, or a bigger version of that is insane asylums. And many are terrorists. And I’ll tell you what, they’re coming not just from South America, they’re coming from Africa. They’re coming from all over the world. They’re coming from Asia. They’re coming from the Middle East. They’re coming from countries that are stupidly and horribly bombing Israel, October 7th. They’re coming from all over the world. And you look at, it’s so sad, October 7th, because it should have never happened.

Elon Musk (22:10):

Yeah. Sure.

Donald Trump (22:10):

It’s so sad when you look at Ukraine. It should have never happened. We have a defective government. These are defective people. And they’re not people that should be running it. But where you see it the best is the border. Because you have millions of people coming in a month. And then she gets up and she tries to pretend like she’s going to do something. She had three and a half years. And by the way, they have another five months that they can do something. But they won’t do anything. It’s all talk. She’s incompetent and he’s incompetent. And frankly, I think that she’s more incompetent than he is. And that’s saying something, because he’s not too good.

Elon Musk (22:45):

Yeah. No, I think it is essential to have a secure border. I mean, you’re really not a country unless you’re in a secure border.

Donald Trump (22:54):

Correct. And secure elections too.

Elon Musk (22:57):

Yeah, absolutely. Secure elections. And so it is just essential to have a real border, or we can’t function as a country, and our central services are being overwhelmed in a lot of cities. But as we were talking about earlier, I think having a legal immigration process that is smooth and efficient and done well, and speaking as someone who is a legal immigrant. And I think that one way to think of it is, who do you want on your team? Who do you want on Team America? And I think we want to just say, “Okay, we want to let in people who are going to be great contributors to our society and to our economy.” And who do you want on the team? And it’s not to say that, in my opinion, actually, I’d say probably most of the illegal immigrants are actually good, hardworking people. That’s my opinion. But some are not.

(24:01)
And you just have this sort of adverse selection process where if somebody has a career in theft or robbery, I don’t understand what’s taken them so long to get here, because we such a target rich environment. Why aren’t more people who have a career in bad things coming here sooner? Because it’s a piece of cake to go rob houses in LA or New York compared to other parts of the world. And in a lot of places in America, if you try to stop the person who’s robbing you, you’ll be arrested. So it’s insane.

Donald Trump (24:49):

Yeah. That’s right. I mean, what’s happening with crime and our police are so good, but they’re not allowed to do their job. But I have to tell you, Elon, I hate to say, because such a downer to say it. I hate to say it. I hate it. But you have a lot of people that just shouldn’t be… I think it’s a much bigger number than you think.

Elon Musk (25:06):

I think you’re right.

Donald Trump (25:08):

Again, they’re allowing people from their jails. And if you were running one of these countries where they’re coming from, you would’ve had all of them. As an example, Venezuela, their crime is down 72%. They’re taking their drug dealers, they’re taking frankly, their prisoners. They’re emptying out their prisons. They’re taking their criminals, their murderers, their rapists, and they’re delivering them into the-

Elon Musk (25:30):

That’s what Castro did.

Donald Trump (25:31):

Yeah. Well, he did on a much smaller scale. It was much smaller scale.

Elon Musk (25:35):

Yeah.

Donald Trump (25:35):

But this is a massive scale, because this is being done worldwide. But here’s what’s happening. Crime all over the world is down. And wait till you see the numbers that we have. This is migrant crime. This is crime that’s going to be-

Elon Musk (25:49):

Yeah.

Donald Trump (25:49):

And I saw it today in New York where somebody was knifed, where they raped the girlfriend of a man that stood there watching in New York in one of the shelters, and started pulling out the knives. And bad things happen today. But this is happening every day. These are rough people. These are people that are in jail for murder and all sorts of things. And they’re releasing them into our country. And they’re telling them, “If you come back, we’re going to kill you. We’re going to give you the death penalty or kill you.” So they don’t want to come back. But these are rough people. These are criminals that make our criminals look like nice people. And it’s horrible what they’re doing.

(26:23)
And she’s in charge of it, because now she’s trying to say she had nothing to do with it. And she’s such a liar, because she was called the Border Czar the first day, and it was on the headlines of every newspaper. She’s the Border Czar. And she never even went there. She went to one location, which had nothing to do with where the problem is. She went in and out. I guess she was getting a lot of press. But had nothing to do with the problem. But she was the Border Czar, and people can’t allow them to get away with their disinformation campaign. Now she’s trying to say that she wasn’t really involved. And the whole thing is horrible.

(26:59)
She was totally in charge. She could have shut the border down without him. He didn’t know what he was doing anyway, so he wouldn’t have even known what happened. You could shut the border down. He wouldn’t even know the difference. But the fact is that she was Border Czar. But you don’t have to call her that, the fact is you could just call her, she was in charge of the border and the border was the worst ever.

Elon Musk (27:21):

It’s simply not working.

Donald Trump (27:22):

No, it’s horrible.

Elon Musk (27:24):

Whether it’s a question of intention or competence, either way, we don’t have a secure border. And we have people streaming over, it looks like a World War Z zombie apocalypse at times. And sometimes you got to sort of wonder, is it real or not? Because you see things, and you’re like, “Is it real?” So I went to the border at Eagle Pass, and I saw it for myself in Texas. And I was like, “Okay, it’s real.” I’m seeing this in real time. I actually posted the video just live. I just flew there one day and just to see, hey, is this made up or real? And I’m just seeing people stream across the border. And I have to say, at least the people that I saw did not look friendly. People can look at my video and say, “Hey, these people look friendly.” They don’t look super friendly.

Donald Trump (28:14):

These are people that Elon, would not be the same man if he had to walk across the street and look these people in the eye. These are rough people. These are really rough people coming across. And I know rough people. And these are people that we don’t want in our country. And the caravans are coming in. And who’s doing this is the heads of the countries. And you would be doing it. And so would I. And everyone would say, “Oh, what a terrible thing to say.” The fact is its brilliant for them, because they’re taking all of their bad people, really bad people. And I hate to say this, the reason the numbers are much bigger than you would think is they’re also taking their non-productive people. Now, these aren’t people that will kill you. We have enough of them. But these are people that are non-productive.

(28:58)
They are just non-productive. I mean, for whatever reason. They’re not workers or they don’t want to work or whatever. And these countries are getting rid of non-productive people in the caravans in many cases. And they’re also getting rid of their murderers and their drug dealers and the people that are really brutal people. And they’re coming into our country at levels that have never been seen before. And I saw an ad just before I got on the air. I’m walking over here, and I saw an ad by Kamala saying how she is going to provide border security. Where has he been for three and a half years? For three and a half years.

Elon Musk (29:33):

Yeah.

Donald Trump (29:33):

We have 20 million people pouring in. It’s a terrible thing.

Elon Musk (29:37):

Yeah. Frankly, I think this is a fundamental existential issue for the United States. And if we have another four more years of open borders, and with another four more years, it’s going to be even worse than it’s been for the past three and a half years. I’m not sure we’ve got a country at that point.

Donald Trump (29:55):

You don’t have a country left. Elon, if they get in, you’ll have 50 to 60 million people from all over the world. Not South America only. We think of South America, we think of Honduras and El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico, the four. But it’s not that. It’s everywhere. They’re coming in from everywhere. And I had to stay in Mexico.

Elon Musk (30:19):

Yeah, this is a super important point. Basically, when I went down there, I was like, “Well, where are people from?” It’s like almost no one was from Mexico.

Donald Trump (30:28):

No, Mexico [inaudible 00:30:30] of the Earth.

Elon Musk (30:31):

It’s just the border with Mexico. But the people coming in, it’s Earth. The rest of Earth. And America is only about 4% or 5% of the population of Earth. It would only take a few percent of the rest of Earth to overwhelm everything in the US.

Donald Trump (30:46):

We’re already overwhelmed, Elon. We’re overwhelmed. You had to see the news tonight about New York. And I love that place. And what they’re doing to it is horrible, what they’re doing to it.

Elon Musk (30:57):

Yeah.

Donald Trump (30:57):

And all the courts do is they try and focus on Trump.

Donald Trump (31:00):

Okay. Then let’s focus on Trump who did nothing wrong. I complain about our rigged election. Elon, what’s happened is unbelievable. You have from Africa, from the Congo, they’re coming. From the Congo. 22 people came in from the Congo recently and they’re murderers and they’re dropped. They drop them. They take them out of jails, which is very expensive to maintain the jails, although they don’t do too much maintaining, I can tell you.

(31:26)
They take them out of jails, prisons, they take them out and they bring them to the United States. They deposit them to the United States and say, “Don’t ever come back, or you’re going to be executed.” They don’t want to come back, but they won’t come back. They’re coming from Africa, they’re coming from Asia, they’re coming from the Middle East, they’re coming from South America. They’re coming from everywhere. There are a lot of really bad ones.

Elon Musk (31:48):

It’s just an everywhere on Earth thing. It’s just not possible for the United States to absorb everyone from Earth or even a few percent of the rest of Earth, is just not possible.

Donald Trump (32:01):

Well, Elon, just to finish this up, we’re going to have the largest deportation in history of this country. We have no choice. Otherwise, we’re going to have a country… What they’ve done to our country, think of it.

(32:16)
In Venezuela and in some of these other countries, crime is down 50, 60, 70, 80%. You would be the same. I’ll tell you what, Venezuela has not gotten rid of all of them. They’ve gotten rid of about 70% of their really bad people. Their jails are about 50% put into the United States.

(32:36)
Same with other countries. Some are 30%, some are at 50%. They’re all different. The bottom line is they’re all going to be at a hundred percent. Why wouldn’t you put a hundred percent of it? They’re doing it right now while this third-rate, phony candidate… Don’t forget, I beat Biden. He failed in the debate miserably.