Thursday, April 02, 2015

when the stupid go to stunting it can't end well...,


newyorker |  The Indiana law is the product of a G.O.P. search for a respectable way to oppose same-sex marriage and to rally the base around it. There are two problems with this plan, however. First, not everyone in the party, even in its most conservative precincts, wants to make gay marriage an issue, even a stealth one—or opposes gay marriage to begin with. As the unhappy reaction in Indiana shows, plenty of Republicans find the anti-marriage position embarrassing, as do some business interests that are normally aligned with the party. Second, the law is not an empty rhetorical device but one that has been made strangely powerful, in ways that haven’t yet been fully tested, by the Supreme Court decision last year in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby. That ruling allowed the Christian owners of a chain of craft stores to use the federal version of the RFRA to ignore parts of the Affordable Care Act. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, in her dissent, argued strongly that the majority was turning that RFRA into a protean tool for all sorts of evasions. As Jeffrey Toobin has noted, she was proved right even before the Indiana controversy.

Both of those factors have combined to produce real confusion about the Indiana law. Some people are not being straightforward about its implications, whether because they are calculating, mortified, or—in the case of opponents, some of whom have also been unclear about what the law means—alarmed, but it also inhabits novel legal territory, so it is genuinely hard to know what those implications would be.  Governor Pence has done much to muddle things even more. On Sunday, on “This Week,” George Stephanopoulos asked Pence “a yes-or-no question” about whether “a florist in Indiana can now refuse to serve a gay couple without fear of punishment.” He asked half a dozen times, but never got an answer:
Pence: This is not about discrimination, this is about …
Stephanopoulos: But …
Pence: … empowering people …
Stephanopoulos: But let me try to pin you …
Pence: … government overreach here.
Stephanopoulos: … down here though. … It’s just a question, sir. Question, sir. Yes or no?
Pence: Well—well, this—there’s been shameless rhetoric about my state and about this law and about its intention all over the Internet. People are trying to make it about one particular issue. And now you’re doing that as well.

14 comments:

Ed Dunn said...

What started the debacle is the backwater pizza shop lady she will not cater pizza to a same-sex weddings. As if gay weddings order pizza from her all the time...

Dale Asberry said...

Up to $250k now!

Ed Dunn said...

I thought about that also...create a crowdfund to help me order $47,000 worth of pizza with bacon layed out like a cross

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DD said...

Who says people from the country are stupid or lack motivation? These hillbilly's are Husstlers of the highest order. That there is some

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shit.

CNu said...

I'm thinking the owner of Garret's Treasures could be their real life Ted Cobbler...., strictly on the down low. btw - I'll have you know that these are NOT hillbilly's - these are genuine hoosiers. Don't get it twisted.

Ed Dunn said...

Look like there is a lucrative cash money machine business in pandering to fringed xtians fears and beliefs

http://www.celebtricity.com/couple-arrested-for-selling-tickets-to-heaven/

CNu said...

Who in the fuh bought anything from these two crackheads?
http://www.celebtricity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/image3.jpg

Ed Dunn said...

They said the cops had to really grill the guy to get answers out of him

BigDonOne said...

This is no different than *any* other N-1 Scam.
Duped suckers donate 5-6-7 figure lifetime sum$$ to purchase, hopefully, salvation/heaven......

CNu said...

lol, set up for that punchline...,

Vic78 said...

I think they built a lot of credibility with their customers before the ticket scam. They're the coldest salespeople in the world for pulling that off.

Tom said...

Yeah. But this is also the culture now. People who tell you wood is gold are positive and dynamic. People who cut it open and show you the wood are haters.

CNu said...

What's missing is the cat who pulls out a 4.5 long rod about as big around as my thumb, knocks all the "tickets" out of the crackheads' hands, and proceeds right there on the spot to administer a righteous ass-whooping to these two clowns and anybody gathered around them to hear their ripe-critter gas...,