tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post9007164403622134720..comments2024-01-19T04:29:08.081-06:00Comments on subrealism: if a riot is the voice of the unheard, a beheading is __________________?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-82843844223414606152014-08-22T20:39:48.456-05:002014-08-22T20:39:48.456-05:00I'm not letting the residents off the hook. T...I'm not letting the residents off the hook. They have a big part to play in that mess.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-37305386250249088732014-08-22T09:50:26.458-05:002014-08-22T09:50:26.458-05:00They aren't voting. Democrats don't campa...They aren't voting. Democrats don't campaign for their votes. And the communities aren't organized on the ground. The state Democratic parties in red states are incompetent good ole boy clubs. They really aren't trying to work with non whites like that. They also look to the the national party to do all the work for them.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-64097359543858558962014-08-22T09:12:08.185-05:002014-08-22T09:12:08.185-05:00Ah Ha!!!
Cut what if "A People" via:...Ah Ha!!! <br /><br /><br />Cut what if "A People" via:<br /><br />* Their media that brands itself as "Their Media"<br />* Their elected officials who claim "I am fighting for you"<br />* Their activist organizations who reserve the right to INDICT a target AND to walk past a target who, if indicted would create A SELF-INDICTMENT of the "nefarious alliance" that both associate with......<br /><br /><br />are PROVIDING the "VOTER EDUCATION AND REGISTRATION" services?<br /><br /><br />Can you still conclude, sir that an ELECTION RESULT if evidence of ABJECT "ACCOUNTABILITY"?<br /><br /><br />I argue that the EVIDENCE OF PEOPLE'S SUSTAINED, COMPREHENSIVE AND DIRECTED DEVELOPMENT IS THE ONLY credible measure of "ACCOUNTABILITY THAT IS TRUE TO FORM".<br /><br /><br />Everything else is POPULARITY and this is why billionaires purchase MEDIA CORPORATIONS in order to control popular opinions.Constructive_Feedbackhttp://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-58585416548908265262014-08-22T04:19:23.627-05:002014-08-22T04:19:23.627-05:00It would have been more accurate to term you a &qu...It would have been more accurate to term you a "cultist". Because I didn't feel like looking it up, I used a less precise term pulled top-of-mind to approximate the idea. Paul Rosenberg describes you here:Last week, Glenn Greenwald wrote an influential post, “Do Bush followers have a political ideology?”,<br /> in which he argued that Bush supporters are cultists who do not possess<br /> a political ideology, but instead use the terms “conservative” and <br />“liberal” to identify members of the cult and those outside the cult, <br />respectively. While I agree with the vast majority of Glenn’s analysis, I<br /> believed he was mistaken in one respect—the cultism is the ideology. What’s more, it is also a form of conservatism, as I argued in an initial response, “It's The Ideology, Smarty!” at My Left Wing.<br /> Here I want to expand on those remarks in a series of posts, and place<br /> them in a larger framework that draws on a variety of different <br />disciplines and perspectives. At the core of this endeavor is a <br />definition of conservatism, as follows.<br /><br />Thesis<br />Here’s my thesis: Conservatism is a form (indeed the original form) of identity politics. It is expressed through<br /> multiple forms of political ideology based on justifying elite rule and<br /> the division of the human race into dualized classes (ideal and <br />counter-ideal) in terms of some “natural” moral order.http://patternsthatconnect.blogspot.com/2006/02/conservatism-as-identity-politicssome.htmlCNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-82791535007600863162014-08-21T21:57:15.176-05:002014-08-21T21:57:15.176-05:00That still doesn't distinguish what moral cons...That still doesn't distinguish what moral conservatism is compared to social conservatism. I am guessing the word term "you're" is not pointed at me as an individual but who you believe I am a grouped with. Again, please note, if Tom saw me do this, all we could do is go into some sort of distraction exercise: "there he goes again, putting words in someone else's mouth" or liar, or what is truth", etc. . Or you would answer, you have no idea who I am or what I do, etc, or what my political ideology happens to be.<br /><br />"You very much like to control the behavior of others....you're perfectly happy for others to enact horrendous violence against their persons so long as they comply..<br /><br />I have no idea what you would use for an example, I have come out for legalizing all drugs so long as element of this libertarian allows us to let people who make choices reap the natural consequences of their choices. I can point what behaviors are successful and which fail, but I think its patently false to think I would advocate violence against those who practice failing behaviors. And I am for the aid of others in the form of organizations or individuals or families that will create some accountability between the one being helped and the one providing the help. <br /><br />"As Frum pointed out, the foundation of your polity is elderly and unsustainably expensive to maintain on the dole."<br /><br />If you are using the word "polity" in the way its defined:<br /> "something (such as a country or state) that has a government : a politically organized unit : a form of government"<br /><br /><br /><br />Yes of course we know our government is unsustainable. I believe you have read me write more than once that I am well aware no government last forever, and this government will fall, I suspect before you and men die (we're about the same age.). What I don't get is why you don't consider it your government falling also, you only talk of it in terms of my government falling. <br /><br /><br />You act like you are somehow immune to any blowback when the government falls. When you say some entity like ISIS should double its efforts, its like you think they somehow will look at you like you are one of them and move you out of the group of tied up men they are spraying with bullets. You admire these hard men as they run through villages demanding the people believe and behave like them or die a public humiliating hard deaths. As they take the women and kids as slaves. <br /><br /><br />Sorry to say your polity is my polity, you can act like you're above it all your one ideology two party crap, but if so, what difference does Frum's ideas make? Why does it matter if republicans or democrats win in your foundational spouted belief of this one ideology two party rule? <br /><br /><br />Anyways all I really wanted to know is, are you calling moral conservatism social conservatism or is there some difference.kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-49635960455462348082014-08-21T21:06:17.815-05:002014-08-21T21:06:17.815-05:00What is more interesting is this goes on probably ...What is more interesting is this goes on probably more widespread in the Hispanic majority areas throughout the Southeast like Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, etc. Either people not voting or these elections are gamed in some fashion..Ed Dunnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-22121292406536046762014-08-21T20:00:09.372-05:002014-08-21T20:00:09.372-05:00Best believe they segregated their own children aw...Best believe they segregated their own children away from the turrible little black chirrens and maintained their little lily ethnic enclaves in parochial and private schools. It's an awful way to run a city, but in the state which pioneered white flight, block busting, restrictive housing covenants, and suburban sprawl, what else would you expect?CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-80046833711248631552014-08-21T19:56:33.319-05:002014-08-21T19:56:33.319-05:00I consider you immoral and intentionally so, thoug...I consider you immoral and intentionally so, though in deep denial. In a nutshell, you'd very much like to control the behavior of others by persu(suggestion) but failing that, you're perfectly happy for others to enact horrendous violence against their persons so long as they comply with what you consider acceptable behavior. <br /><br />I don't expect to be dissatisfied for very much longer now. As Frum pointed out, the foundation of your polity is elderly and unsustainably expensive to maintain on the dole. Moreover, with WW-III pending, the Fourth Reich will need all its able-bodied soldiery, especially those most vital and with certain distinct advantages for slogging it out on the African continent.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-1775191623020396782014-08-21T18:19:59.425-05:002014-08-21T18:19:59.425-05:00Politicians and police are accountable through the...Politicians and police are accountable through the electoral process and taxes. We have plenty of cities such as in Southern California that ran successful recall efforts (including a California governor) as a precedent. As well as here in the South where police chiefs were fired and prosecutors (Duke raped) was stripped of their bar and removed from office by the taxpayers. In terms of Educational Policy Reforms, once again that is still on the people who could have opt-out on Leave No Child Behind...nothing was done at all here in Ferguson by any of the majority population..all around, absolutely nothing...Ed Dunnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-65338285963610946772014-08-21T18:03:09.028-05:002014-08-21T18:03:09.028-05:00Which part of this remark didn't you understan...Which part of this remark didn't you understand?..<br />I understood it, but I was working and didn't refresh the comments before I sent my comment, otherwise I would have adjusted it. <br /><br />"BINGO! Nothing less than burning your entire partisan edifice to the ground and plowing under the ashes will satisfy. That's a fact. Deal with it."<br /><br />Perhaps you will have to deal with always being dissatisfied. And all this because I pointed out the clear ignorance or underhanded motives of the New York Times....<br /><br />What is moral conservatism? I have heard of social conservatism, but you may have to expand moral conservatism for me.kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-32223436235767234032014-08-21T17:19:52.284-05:002014-08-21T17:19:52.284-05:00Who has the gold, rules. Who pays the lawyers dict...Who has the gold, rules. Who pays the lawyers dictates what happens. <br /><br />Since we know the beleaguered citizenry of the gerrymandered hamlet of Ferguson won't be ponying up to free themselves from their colonial occupiers, and since we know their political complaints and malaise have been ignored now for three generations or more, all that you're advocating is a quiet derailment of the passionate violence in the street, which violence in the street is the ONLY thing that has served to galvanize public - and more importantly - elite attention to the messy governance problem that elite inattention and negligence has allowed to fester for waaaaaay too long. <br /><br />Riot is the voice of the unheard. A whole lot more rioting in a whole lot more cities will be what is required to shift the balance of these structural inequities and unsustainable war-on build-ups nationwide. Now that the eyes of the world are looking dead at uhmurkah's shitty drawls, and said shitty drawls are plainly evident for everybody to see, elites better commence to scrambling quick, fast, and in a hurry.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-67744765748401477792014-08-21T17:11:55.082-05:002014-08-21T17:11:55.082-05:00Off-topic Feed. If you want to engage in peasant p...Off-topic Feed. If you want to engage in peasant partisan squabbles, surely there are places where you can indulge your fetish. This discussion falls under the rubric of two parties one ideology and it has to do with the systematic funding of war-on morons by a disengaged elite that is only now being awakened to the egregious errors of its policy ways.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-77966121707046653682014-08-21T17:09:44.301-05:002014-08-21T17:09:44.301-05:00lol, you'll find 10 times the number because y...lol, you'll find 10 times the number because you'll skew your sample sizes and compare Ferguson with the rest of the U.S. <br /><br />However, if you actually knew what you were talking about for a change, you'd not need look any further than an adjacent hamlet in STL called Normandy. In that one out of ninety two hamlets alone, you'll find the 10 times you're looking for. Now remember, Missouri has the second toughest state educational standards in the U.S., so even our mideducated lil'chirrens in a failed school district are superior to the best that a backwoods like Georgia - with its vastly lower educational standards - has to offer. <br /><br />That said, Ed's characterization of the larger, loosely racially federated black misleadership in St. Louis writ large is right on point. When those sorry-assed 2nd and 3rd line failures are scrutinized, their useless struggles over the past 40 years don't stand up to competent scrutiny.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-78458181520603470272014-08-21T17:06:01.420-05:002014-08-21T17:06:01.420-05:00Maybe I'm missing your point, probably I'm...Maybe I'm missing your point, probably I'm ignorant, but I have not been talking about bringing in leaders. I'm talking about hiring lawyers and telling them to go make legal things happen.Naive Tomhttp://automaticpreference.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-61500851908839050102014-08-21T17:02:26.465-05:002014-08-21T17:02:26.465-05:00Excuse me Brother CNu:
I am trying to understa...Excuse me Brother CNu: <br /><br />I am trying to understand the 'Time Relevance' of Restrictive Covenants upon the situation in Ferguson by which the "Negro" is today relatively underdeveloped AND as he mounts up a "Local Political Takeover" to put "People Who Respect Black People" into power - as the city turns into another "East St Louis" or "Gary IN" - how will these "restrictive covenants" be to blame for the latest "okie doke " scheme?<br /><br />GARY INDIANA - The sign promising a "New Day In Gary" is not bleached by the sun and tattered by the winds.<br /><br />http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iRX-ofaVR_o/UL9aVK_TdJI/AAAAAAAAe1c/Yn6FibLrsHg/s1600/Garys+Future+-+Sales+Job.png<br /><br />Yet EBONY MAGAZINE profits from the time "Back In The Day" in which the "Black Political Power" forces rolled into town, was greeting by the "Black mayor" as they plotted a course for "Black America" = 1972 through 2002.<br /><br />http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TBUpqxADdnc/ULA3LkYckiI/AAAAAAAAdf8/fMWAdOwJdEU/s640/Ebony+Gary+Indiana.png<br /><br />THE BEST LOOKING SIGN IN TOWN IN GARY INDIANA / LAKE COUNTY IN: (Which I Stole For My Collection)<br /><br />http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KlaL-XSXXVY/ULmVWFD5_TI/AAAAAAAAemI/RI8VrVhRLRs/s1600/Gary+Indiana+Stolen+Sign.jpgConstructive_Feedbackhttp://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-70364427752971240602014-08-21T17:01:35.078-05:002014-08-21T17:01:35.078-05:00Fist tap Vic:Republicans have come to rely more an...Fist tap Vic:Republicans have come to rely more and more on the votes of <b>the elderly, the most government-dependent segment of the population</b> -- a serious complication for a party committed to reducing government. Second, the <br />Republican donor class has grown more ideologically extreme, encouraging congressional Republicans to embrace ever more radical tactics. Third, the party’s internal processes have rigidified, in ways that dangerously inhibit its ability to adapt to changing circumstances. The GOP can overcome the negative consequences of these changes and, in time, surely will. The ominous question for Republicans is, How much time will the overcoming take?http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141735/david-frum/crashing-the-party<br /><br />http://youtu.be/8iOpUdsMeqMCNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-39397772576836037292014-08-21T16:55:27.504-05:002014-08-21T16:55:27.504-05:00Brother Ed:
When you say "Held their (govern...Brother Ed:<br /><br />When you say "Held their (government officials) accountable" - please be specific in what you mean?<br /><br />For every "Ferguson Police Harassment" example I can find you 10 times the number of BLACK INJURIES from promised "Educational Policy Reforms" around various "Mission Accomplished Cities" that were supposed to benefit Black people.<br /><br /><br />WHAT MAKES "POLICE HARASSMENT" superior to these other injuries dispensed from the government?Constructive_Feedbackhttp://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-9535984861404112562014-08-21T16:54:10.419-05:002014-08-21T16:54:10.419-05:00The actual issue here
Which part of this remark d...<i>The actual issue here</i><br /><br />Which part of this remark didn't you understand?Nobody gives a dayyum about these two tragic peasants, both of whose <br />lives ended around noon with 6 shots on August 9th. Wilson will walk, <br />just like George Zimmerman walked, and before he's 30, he'll put a gun <br />in his own mouth the way George Zimmerman ought to.What the trailer trash cop did to the ghetto troll boy was just a trigger. The systemic political issues that this trigger event disclosed is what this is all about.<br /><br />What this is really and truly all about is the systematic dismantling by the establishment of all the deranged policies and institutions that your wing of the American political spectrum has assembled over the past 40 years with its neverending wars on this, wars on that, wars on common sense and any semblance of intelligence. <br /><br />Or didn't you get my very first post on this subject a week ago? http://subrealism.blogspot.com/2014/08/timing-is-everything.html<br /><br /><i>BD is my fault</i><br /><br />lol, not even I get to take credit for BD. I only provide a projector and a screen in front of which BD shamelessly and obsessively works his singular performance art. The fact that your pretend moral conservatism (cowardly notseeism) provides a partisan big tent under which BD and his ilk can comfortably lodge, that's a whole a different topic, and one that's been explored to exhaustion at Cobb's. <br /><br /><i>the answers by the justice system either way won't be enough to satisfy.</i><br /><br />BINGO! Nothing less than burning your entire partisan edifice to the ground and plowing under the ashes will satisfy. That's a fact. Deal with it.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-5326482268184004702014-08-21T16:26:46.401-05:002014-08-21T16:26:46.401-05:00lol What boomers mean when they call themselves c...lol What boomers mean when they call themselves conservative is that they have begun to demand massive cutbacks to spending programs that do not directly benefit them.Naive Tomhttp://automaticpreference.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-89749178669730747612014-08-21T16:25:54.875-05:002014-08-21T16:25:54.875-05:00lol, my bad BD, still got your lip poked out from ...lol, my bad BD, still got your lip poked out from the other day when I snopes'd some wholly contrived garbage you cited about M. Brown's purported criminal record. I sometimes forget how central this blog is to your daily life.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-14332520277682635952014-08-21T15:22:46.732-05:002014-08-21T15:22:46.732-05:00All this hysterics is tied up in me pointing out t...All this hysterics is tied up in me pointing out that someone ignorantly doesn't know that how the police are processing this isn't much different than a parallel case in Salt Lake City, in fact Salt Lake is moving slower. Or maybe they know and still choose to make the accusations anyway. <br /><br /><br />Your problem here with your tank full of fuel is one of timing. All this work to maybe nail a mayor and 50 white cops can't be your goal with a rail full car of jet fuel. Structural racial accusations why you have a democrat president, democrat attorney general, democrat governor, and democrat PA are not going to shoot very far up the structural change ladder. Do you think you are going to be happy with all that fuel just to see justice served for this one incident? <br /><br /><br />At least if it was republicans, if it turns out justice is not convicting this cop, you could crack your tank over and burn the whole town and hope the chaos spreads. But what will you do now when all the democrats are overseeing this? Everyone is too fired up right now just to only nail the one bad cop, or even the 50 white cops and republican mayor, but that's the only low hanging fruit available. <br /><br /><br />Of course we see that with your chant into Mr. war this and Mr. war that, or BD is my fault. The actual issue here...was this cop's use of force unlawful or not and if not, was it criminal; the answers by the justice system either way won't be enough to satisfy.kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-51379589283054888382014-08-21T15:08:05.101-05:002014-08-21T15:08:05.101-05:00This is the second time you folks have come down i...This is the second time you folks have come down in favor of an <b>Empty Bag of Proper Skin Color</b> -- (first was Obama in 2008). Face it, BigDon is Truth.......!!!BigDonOnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-70853012263949791562014-08-21T15:00:19.034-05:002014-08-21T15:00:19.034-05:00Translation: CNu's original "innocent 18-...Translation: CNu's original <i>"innocent 18-yr-old"</i> MB characterization is now permanently inoperative........BigDonOnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-20989862123112062962014-08-21T14:40:44.820-05:002014-08-21T14:40:44.820-05:00Lol, I see BD just like Homer Simpson lying on his...Lol, I see BD just like Homer Simpson lying on his side going around in a circle saying, "whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo!"Dale Asberryhttp://life-abundantly.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-56424283936228706402014-08-21T14:03:16.437-05:002014-08-21T14:03:16.437-05:00These slugs are now paying active lip-service beca...These slugs are now paying active lip-service because the light and heat has got elites worrying about stability of governance. Since it's elites whose donations fund the ACLU, whatever they react to, then their pet civil liberties lapdogs are bound to respond to too.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com