tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post8927631240977003205..comments2024-01-19T04:29:08.081-06:00Comments on subrealism: not even a fan, but the Hon.Bro.Preznit obviously meant roads and bridges...,Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-56642192255262539512012-09-11T19:36:31.382-05:002012-09-11T19:36:31.382-05:00I hope so. He stirred the pot nicely enough and cl...I hope so. He stirred the pot nicely enough and claims to have substantial bona fides. While BD doesn't offer to routinely take on the entire barroom single-handedly pursuant to his beliefs, he's not scurred to keep it 100% and at the same time deeply subrealist. I respect that degree of integrity above all else.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-72939753795786098422012-09-11T18:27:30.640-05:002012-09-11T18:27:30.640-05:00Cleggg will fit in fine, the full contact mental j...Cleggg will fit in fine, the full contact mental jousting takes awhile to get used to.DDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-67676726895390593672012-09-09T19:38:15.039-05:002012-09-09T19:38:15.039-05:00Dood, you come here spouting ambien induced incohe...Dood, you come here spouting ambien induced incoherence personified by the sock-puppet in chief, yet have the audacity to accuse me of "demonizing scapegoats"?!?!?!?!<br /><br />rotflmbao..., trigga please....,<br /><br />As for your novice life-coaching advisements, GTFOH again..., if the point is to get onboard with your cocaine intoxicated Randian chindribble, save that douchery for someone suffering a significant brain injury and corresponding cognitive deficit. <br /><br />In the last year alone, I've done more in this community for deserving constituents than you've accomplished in your entire lifetime. The difference between you and I is that you want "credit" for your contributions, that you suppose yourself to be special, and that you think you contribute to history, all the while failing to recognize the simple and indisputable fact that you're not even capable of an internally consistent political expression in a blog's comment section. <br /><br />I repeat, you haven't built a dayyum thing in your whole and entire life, and if you can pretend that Romney is deserving of anything other than complete and unrelenting scorn, then there's a significant probability that you're more than just a little bit psychologically unhinged. Oh well, a peasant gotta do what a peasant gotta do....,CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-51932024588218679762012-09-09T14:14:30.923-05:002012-09-09T14:14:30.923-05:00"You haven't built a dayyum thing in your..."You haven't built a dayyum thing in your life"<br /><br />Guessing about 100x-1000x more than you, mi amigo, including commerce, social ventures, community service. One of those 1000 Ted talks? Yeah, that's me. Something you use every day? Yeah, that's one of my companies. <br /><br />You're still blaming people, rather than a system. Good luck with all those demonized scape goats "out there." You're missing the point (of life). <br /><br />I will GTFO of your little inbred church now. When you wake up from the dream, start doing something demonstrably unifying and positive for this country and this world.Clegggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-82981173812686000342012-09-09T13:35:21.590-05:002012-09-09T13:35:21.590-05:00Thank you sir for the historical depth-shot!Thank you sir for the historical depth-shot!CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-41675134817301133712012-09-09T13:33:45.816-05:002012-09-09T13:33:45.816-05:00[govt] it simply takes wealth from the wealth-make...<i> [govt] it simply takes wealth from the wealth-makers and sticks it into a large policy grinding machine that redistributes the wealth as (in theory) we-the-people direct it (>80% to defense, health, and entitlements).</i> <br /><br />mmh, hmm....,<br /><br />No.<br /><br />1. Government is not now nor has it ever been directed by "we the people"<br />2. Government DOES direct wealth buidling by concentrating its activities in certain sectors.<br /><br />For example, the DoD is the largest energy consumer in the U.S. ecology and the largest single energy consumer in the world. It can easily determine energy policy by concentrating its activities in certain sectors, as for example the nuclear power industry which was built up during the 1950's and 60's, coal gasification (which it could do now with a Sasol-like South African movement in that direction) Star Wars - which produced inexpensive, mass produced computing processors and revolutionized computing at the personal level, NASA, the Internet, etc, etc,etc....,<br /><br /><i>You, Mr and Mrs American, DID built it. </i><br /><br />You didn't build jack shit peasant, so stop energetically whooping your gums about some ridiculous Randian ideological nonsense.<br /><br /><i>The president shows a chillingly polarizing ideology in his statement. There is, in fact, no U.S. citizen who POTUS can rightfully point to and say "you didn't built that." I don't care what your politics are, that kind of rhetoric is not unifying or presidential. It unnecessarily partisan and polarizing. </i><br /><br />OK, you may go. <br /><br />you're just an obsessive moron with a hard-on to make something out of whole cloth with which to attack the Hon.Bro.Preznit. Again, I'm not a fan, and I'm not defending the man. It's just that your attack is about the stupidest, most disingenuous, and the flimisiest route of attack on this president and his center right policies.<br /><br /><i>But don't tell me that he, or anyone else in this country, "didn't build that." </i><br /><br />lol, microencephalic cretin..., GTFOH with all of that nonsensical backwards-ass gas.<br /><br />You haven't built a dayyum thing in your life, and if you want to suck up to an oxygen-thieving parasite like Romney, good luck with that.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-14245421235072776612012-09-09T13:25:27.187-05:002012-09-09T13:25:27.187-05:00"synchronicity" is my middle name.... wh..."synchronicity" is my middle name.... when "danger" isn't.John Kurmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-44627282688155798562012-09-09T13:22:33.196-05:002012-09-09T13:22:33.196-05:00Oh, it's much worse than that. The massive 20t...Oh, it's much worse than that. The massive 20th C subsidies are dwarfed by the massive leveraged subsidies of the 19th C fed gov. Consider, breadbasket America primarily from the Dept. Of Agriculture (back when it was kick-ass), the Railroad Act, the Homestead Act, and the grandaddy Louisiana Purchase and Mexican War, the removal of pesky indigenous peoples, &c &c. If you live west of the Mississippi, you're very existence has been subsidized by Uncle Sam.John Kurmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-26708691654369903812012-09-09T11:30:06.031-05:002012-09-09T11:30:06.031-05:00Now we're on track. For a 20c "system of ...Now we're on track. For a 20c "system of production subsidy," I suggest cheap, abundant energy was #1, not govt policy. And I would suggest that expensive energy is now having the opposite effect on production and prosperity. Energy as a percentage of disposable household income has nearly doubled in just 10 years, after remaining relatively flat for the prior 60 years. <br /><br />Ideology aside for a moment, the people that started businesses that generated the lion's share of taxes that built the infrastructure of this country are the true "you" that BUILT THAT, along with all their executives, managers, laborers, stakeholders, suppliers, environmental value, adjunct community, and customers (see "B Corp" Charter). Richard Florida's research shows that only a small percentage of people are "innately entrepreneurial." Perhaps 10% of the population has the genetic factors that propels them to take entrepreneurial risks that build businesses that generate taxes that build infrastructure. Are you one of them? <br /><br />Government is not human, any more than a corporation is human. Govt is nothing but a proxy that (in theory) reflects the people's will. Government doesn't create or innovate, it doesn't make wealth, it simply takes wealth from the wealth-makers and sticks it into a large policy grinding machine that redistributes the wealth as (in theory) we-the-people direct it (>80% to defense, health, and entitlements). By this definition, we ALL built "that." No USA citizen hasn't had a stake in "building that." And that's what's wrong with the president's speech. You, Mr and Mrs American, DID built it. The president shows a chillingly polarizing ideology in his statement. There is, in fact, no U.S. citizen who POTUS can rightfully point to and say "you didn't built that." I don't care what your politics are, that kind of rhetoric is not unifying or presidential. It unnecessarily partisan and polarizing. <br /><br />I dislike Romney, and cringe to think of him as president. But regardless of what you think about his business practices, they are all legal AFAICT. If you're upset at people profiting from legal activity, you should address the law, not the individuals. Same for taxes - Romney appears to have paid all the taxes he's legally required to pay, as distasteful as that is. Looks like he pays around $3M/yr on dividend income. Average per capita Fed income tax is around $8,500. Romney's taxes are equivalent to 350 average workers. If you don't like his business practices, then address the laws that allow him (and thousands of others like him) to prosper. But don't tell me that he, or anyone else in this country, "didn't build that."Clegggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-44959332175198846602012-09-08T17:34:32.424-05:002012-09-08T17:34:32.424-05:00note to self, the very same crimogenic bust-out sp...note to self, the very same crimogenic bust-out specialists whom the Hon.Bro.Preznit and his AG Holder have lacked the testicular fortitude to prosecute http://subrealism.blogspot.com/2012/08/nary-iota-of-testicular-fortitude.htmlCNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-86549384478982626932012-09-08T17:32:49.419-05:002012-09-08T17:32:49.419-05:00lol, he's addressing himself to delusional, Ra...lol, he's addressing himself to delusional, Randian, "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" hypocrites who stand squarely on the shoulders of the american system of production, which system of production was MASSIVELY subsidized in the 20th century by the federal government. Historically, you can situate the beginning of the contemporary system of production to WW-II - principally through and by the same interlocking directorates and advisory councils which brought an end to the Great Depression by establishing a beachhead in the White House and the Congress - which beachhead has only increased rather than eroded - after WW-II morphed into the Cold War and the military industrial congressional complex. <br /><br />"You" would be precisely that same set of ahistorical liars like Mitt Romney and the Bain capital vultures who've never created a plugged nickel of value, but who have raped, pillaged, and looted the American system of production exclusively toward the end of enriching themselves and everybody else be damned. Matt Taiibbi knocks that one out of the park http://subrealism.blogspot.com/2012/09/greed-and-debt-true-story-of-mitt.htmlCNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-57107698123557506472012-09-08T13:36:00.478-05:002012-09-08T13:36:00.478-05:00By the way, not sure where you got your data, but ...By the way, not sure where you got your data, but my guess <i>was</i> correct. The "government" does not "employ 80% of ... computer <br />scientists in North America today" -- http://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm#tab-6Clegggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-88105091116735829502012-09-08T13:28:04.730-05:002012-09-08T13:28:04.730-05:00"...because it's so
completely wrong, an..."...because it's so <br />completely wrong, and you're so firmly committed to it, it IS <br />crazy-talk."<br /><br />CNu, I think, in fact, <i>you</i> have failed completely to understand my point (whether that point is right or wrong is another issue). Your blog post is focused on the meaning of "that" -- but I could care less about the meaning of "that" - or if the president really meant "those" -- or whatever. Let me spell it out for you. No, wait, let me ask you a question first.<br /><br />In that same sentence, who is "you"? What group of people is the president pointing at when he says "you" (didn't build that)?Clegggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-38354520406688190392012-09-08T12:39:11.607-05:002012-09-08T12:39:11.607-05:00It's ok to not know.
Better still, to not gue...It's ok to not know.<br /><br />Better still, to not guess or make uninformed assumptions and instead, simply ask.<br /><br />You should try it.<br /><br />The Navy is the single biggest research funding source at MIT and has been for generations. <br /><br /><i> I don't see a distinction between government and "all people" -- unlike Obama's speech.</i><br /><br />lol, at your adamant refusal to surrender your cherished illusion about Obama's position, intention, and meaning. And yes, because it's so completely wrong, and you're so firmly committed to it, it IS crazy-talk. (and no, I'm not a partisan supporter of the Hon.Bro.Preznit and his particular flavor of banksterish corporatism.)CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-71513370120777293992012-09-08T11:32:10.498-05:002012-09-08T11:32:10.498-05:00Perhaps so.Perhaps so.Clegggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-51390955841312971852012-09-08T11:31:59.368-05:002012-09-08T11:31:59.368-05:00Dale, I will take that advice. Dale, I will take that advice. Clegggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-44105891812529983472012-09-08T11:31:35.471-05:002012-09-08T11:31:35.471-05:00"lol, who exactly
do you believe funded the ..."lol, who exactly<br /> do you believe funded the research of Vannevar Bush at MIT? Who do you <br />suppose is the single biggest funder of advanced research at MIT today? <br />Who do you suppose employs 80% of working physicists and computer <br />scientists in North America today?"<br /><br />I'm guessing that the majority of U.S. computer scientists are employed in the private sector. As for academics, it is mostly funded by tuition, private industry, and taxpayer dollars. I don't see a distinction between government and "all people" -- unlike Obama's speech. But since it's all "crazy-talk" anyway, I'll be on my way and let you boys enjoy your little in-group. Bye!Clegggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-42281335358436911692012-09-08T11:01:12.643-05:002012-09-08T11:01:12.643-05:00Speaking of naval funding, Kurman's next-to-la...Speaking of naval funding, Kurman's next-to-last post was serendipitously on point http://johnkurman.blogspot.com/2012/09/subsidize-me.htmlCNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-71148188731214466122012-09-08T10:33:18.275-05:002012-09-08T10:33:18.275-05:00You really oughtta take a look aroundYou really oughtta take a look aroundDale Asberryhttp://life-abundantly.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-91264419988371165022012-09-08T10:31:45.346-05:002012-09-08T10:31:45.346-05:00more and more?!?!?!?!
No. Same as it ever was...,...<i>more and more?!?!?!?!</i><br /><br />No. Same as it ever was..., http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-48284015837705601672012-09-08T10:26:57.090-05:002012-09-08T10:26:57.090-05:00lol, who exactly do you believe funded the researc...lol, who exactly do you believe funded the research of Vannevar Bush at MIT? Who do you suppose is the single biggest funder of advanced research at MIT today? Who do you suppose employs 80% of working physicists and computer scientists in North America today?<br /><br />I was tempted to say your "hairsplitting" but what you're doing is nowhere near the precision of rhetorical hair-splitting. For the most part, it sounds like disingenuous crazy-talk.<br /><br />This conversation started because you made a preposterous, partisan, crazy-talk claim about the Hon.Bro.Preznit's remarks that is a flat out lie and misrepresentation.<br /><br />The government doesn't think anything at all. It merely serves at the pleasure of elites who think and demand certain baseline policies, procedures and operations. The primary driver of innovation in the 20th century was industrial scale warfare. The american warsocialist state and american warsocialist operations, distinctively and exclusively creatures of government and corporatist governance are the indispensible drivers of modern american innovation. <br /><br />We have now reached a point where american elites are increasingly removed from the wants and needs of the american people and the american people are deemed more of a liability than an asset and will be dealt with accordingly.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-12510234148474857892012-09-08T10:23:38.484-05:002012-09-08T10:23:38.484-05:00To see what "people centric leadership" ...To see what "people centric leadership" looks like in these parts: <br />http://subrealism.blogspot.com/search/label/People%20Centric%20LeadershipDale Asberryhttp://life-abundantly.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-27047719936943594132012-09-08T10:23:29.163-05:002012-09-08T10:23:29.163-05:00It's looking more and more like the majority o...It's looking more and more like the majority of politicians, and bankers, fit a sociopathic diagnosis. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/many-wall-st-execs-says-050334637.htmlClegggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-23203460929243877162012-09-08T10:17:11.971-05:002012-09-08T10:17:11.971-05:00Eh, not really, unless uttered nonsense says it...Eh, not really, unless uttered nonsense says it's deserved. But I will belittle Randian Objectivism without mercy. The name-calling was fairly directed at the ideas being Randian rather than at you personally. The rest of my comment was really directed at the nonsense I've been seeing on FB. Of course, feel free to belittle me for spending time on Facebook...Dale Asberryhttp://life-abundantly.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-55835143551779590662012-09-08T10:13:43.517-05:002012-09-08T10:13:43.517-05:00I'm not getting any indication thus far that J...I'm not getting any indication thus far that John Kurman's sensors were off - and - at this juncture Cleggg has made the preposterous claims concerning the Hon.Bro.Preznit's remarks and intentions.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com