tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post3999727531297940324..comments2024-01-19T04:29:08.081-06:00Comments on subrealism: the myth of AIUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-13199685850271561632014-11-17T13:05:03.257-06:002014-11-17T13:05:03.257-06:00Last point first, I believe that's what you, I...Last point first, I believe that's what you, I and Shalizi are observing: the coldest of cold monsters. <br /><br /><br />As to the aggregate powers, it's really not so much nations and personalities, as it is technology and culture. For example, Assyria is kicking ass, but by the end of the century they have disappeared. Duke Wen of Jin in China stops the northern advance of Chu cold, but the Zhou dynasty is less than a century away from the Period of Warring States. Iron is finally coming into its own then, both in China and Asia Minor (and much, much earlier in East Africa). Printing is starting up. Coinage. Just as the telegraph and the steam engine provided the myelin sheaths for the nervous system of the long 19th century, those 7th century cultural achievements are getting us all set for Empire.John Kurmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-90875328813552767122014-11-17T12:38:10.970-06:002014-11-17T12:38:10.970-06:00636BC and a number of important aggregate powers c...<i>636BC and a number of important aggregate powers coming upon the world stage</i><br /><br />Please specify a few of the aggregate powers you have in mind?<br /><br /><i>Remember, though, all aggregates are impermanent.</i> <br /><br />You sure about that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_companies<br /><br />Joint stock corporations are designed for permanence, and, an epiphytic role in the ecology of nation-states which by enforcing their contracts, have made their existence possible. When private banks got into the business of funding nation-states, then multi-national and private central banks subverted that whole <i>"existence possible"</i> proposition. <br /><br />Cast over this now well-established backdrop, in which banks have their own distinct agenda, and the means to parasitically dominate the agency of states, i.e., the political will of humans and their sovereigns..., aren't we in fact witnessing nothing less than the raping of the overwhelming majority of these humans into oblivion or some as yet to be realized alternative?CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-14329175248008284132014-11-17T11:43:03.605-06:002014-11-17T11:43:03.605-06:00I'm going with 636BC, as I like that number, a...I'm going with 636BC, as I like that number, and it corresponds with a number of important aggregate powers coming upon the world stage. Remember, though, all aggregates are impermanent. I'm also reminded of the short story told from The Thing's point of view, which is appalled to find out that life on Earth is, unlike life in the rest of the Universe, a soul-less mechanism. The Thing is therefore duty bound to rape us into consciousness.John Kurmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-3337119607264255692014-11-17T10:17:02.110-06:002014-11-17T10:17:02.110-06:00lol, please don't take this the wrong way Bro....lol, please don't take this the wrong way Bro. Feed, but your grasp of reality mechanics is soooooo elementary that it's simply not possible for you to hold up your end of the discussion begging to be had. By that same token, it's not worth my time to engage the discussion you're currently prepared to have, because adding insult to intellectual injury, you're little stick-figure understanding has its dukes up posturing as if partisan. . <br /><br />So, before I put my thumb down on the little faking and jabbing stickman, here's a little simple and pleasant homework assignment for you to do. <br /><br />Go see Interstellar.<br /><br />Deeply ponder the proposition that the mysterious emotion we call "love" is our nervous system's best effort to represent something more than space and time. Get back at me when you have some results to report. Thanks!CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-30607724802760449312014-11-17T09:57:11.053-06:002014-11-17T09:57:11.053-06:00Is that gout or a huge hematoma on his right leg? ...Is that gout or a huge hematoma on his right leg? either way, not good....,<br /><br />Anyway, Lanier is correct in his assertions. AI IS either a myth or as it's been used lately by Musk and Hawking, a profound misnomer. The bottomline is that it's still just the egregores originally evoked by John Dee and first noted to my attention by Paco Nathan.<br /><br />http://www.slideshare.net/liber118/signum<br />http://www.slideshare.net/liber118/tripzineCNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-36747334320687668082014-11-16T22:28:34.092-06:002014-11-16T22:28:34.092-06:00This is why I can't read edge anymore. Bunch o...This is why I can't read edge anymore. Bunch of wordy bastards that never get around to saying anything important. Either AI been around for a long time, or we are, as Fat Boy Lanier never quite connected, fake AI.John Kurmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-68934464766814454002014-11-16T20:21:36.542-06:002014-11-16T20:21:36.542-06:00The anime Ghost in the Shell talks addresses evolv...The anime Ghost in the Shell talks addresses evolving AI. If you haven't seen it, you're missing out.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-91087036042547616942014-11-16T19:40:43.778-06:002014-11-16T19:40:43.778-06:00Speaking of AI, Disney's doing the damn thing ...Speaking of AI, Disney's doing the damn thing right now.<br /><br />http://youtu.be/fk24PuBUUkQVic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-68634606476215256102014-11-16T16:27:41.296-06:002014-11-16T16:27:41.296-06:00[quote]The distinction between a corporation and a...[quote]<b>The distinction between a corporation and an algorithm is fading. Does that make an algorithm a person?</b>[/quote]<br /><br />The EVOLUTIONISTS (Hawkings, Nye, Degrasse Tyson, Dawkings) believe that the "HUMAN" is a product of EVOLVED MATTER - which has magically been made INTELLIGENT with some ALGORITHM contained in a mass of elemental chemicals that formed molecules called adenine, thymine, guanine, and cytosine, which later ordered themselves into something called "DNA.<br /><br /><br /><br />With this as a presumption - WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE THEN - that one chooses to call a CORPORATION "human"?<br /><br />IF the same benefit of TIME that made "adenine and thymine" the essence of HUMANITY, superior to the carbon, oxygen and nitrogen molecules that I just washed off of my car yesterday.......................<br /><br /><br />THEN WHAT IF in the evolution of TIME - these said "corporations" are equipped with a robotic body that closely emulates all of the systems of a human body - AND THEN replaces human beings in the work place - in which after decades in which they were drawn in by their ADVANCED CONSUMER BENEFITS from this CORPORATION - in which their FOOD, their electronics, their HEALTH CARE and even the Digestive/Renal System excretions from their bodies were SERVICED BY THE CORPORATE ROBOT/DRONES?<br /><br /><br />I ask you ,sir, IF a CORPORATE ROBOT DRONE successfully tricked the HUMAN ANIMAL to yield his own innate foraging skills and begin to functionally worship the SERVICES received from the ROBOT DRONE - wouldn't it fall in line with the historical actions of other COLONIAL POWERS to reserve the right to WRITE THEIR OWN HISTORY - and thus the CORPORATE ROBOT DRONE bequeaths to all that he be called a HUMAN lest they receive no more rations and are made to fend for themselves?Constructive_Feedbackhttp://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-24831198485278732582014-11-16T09:14:36.632-06:002014-11-16T09:14:36.632-06:00"...AI being a fake thing? 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You can'...<i>"...AI being a fake thing? "</i><br />You can't get the death penalty for murdering an algorithm, not yet anyway.<br />In Washington State, you could plea bargain down to JayWalkingFour, and get off with 5 minutes of Community Service no one would ever verify was performed....BigDonOnenoreply@blogger.com