tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post1309558294966646035..comments2024-01-19T04:29:08.081-06:00Comments on subrealism: if a path exists toward a moral economy, we're not on it...,Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-55125946791858819002013-09-28T07:55:30.108-05:002013-09-28T07:55:30.108-05:00They won't...unless they have, or somehow deve...<i>They won't...unless they have, or somehow develop within themselves, a deep feeling of kinship with the peasants.</i><br /><br /><br />Fairness and cooperation are intrinsic features of equals in contexts of abundance and/or necessity. In conditions of scarcity or perceived scarcity, the risk of competition among equals increases in direct proportion to the privation.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-70576567839894642002013-09-28T04:56:49.157-05:002013-09-28T04:56:49.157-05:00Peasants come in all wallet sizes nk-san.
That l...Peasants come in all wallet sizes nk-san. <br /><br />That lifestyle and those life choices are not motivated by any decentralized desire to "keep the economy rolling", rather, the economy is kept rolling by a centralized livestock management regime of promoting developmentally arrested status-seeking and conspicuous consumption.<br /><br />Class is not defined by $tatu$, rather, it is defined by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibui" rel="nofollow">discernment</a>.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-10150470484066893962013-09-28T04:44:50.446-05:002013-09-28T04:44:50.446-05:00What would the extra 20 years of data have shown?
...What would the extra 20 years of data have shown?<br /><br />The peasants perform all the physical, and the majority of the skilled mental, labor that the Slice needs to stay alive.<br /><br />We arrived at consensus concerning mining and food-gathering. But you've got to be kidding about the "skilled mental labor"!?!?!<br /><br />I struggle daily with a cadre of adults running the gamut from technically certified community college graduates to PhD's and out of a staff of several hundred folks, I'd generously estimate that there are a total of 5 highly competent, committed, and institutionally wise individuals whose combined abstract/symbolic - concrete/tangible efforts keep the roads rolling.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-48571966478881173322013-09-27T12:25:29.948-05:002013-09-27T12:25:29.948-05:00Mebbe these "youth" been listening to Ch...Mebbe these "youth" been listening to Chief Keef an'em....,CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-42889890153295358902013-09-27T12:19:12.401-05:002013-09-27T12:19:12.401-05:00An interesting twist on this is that al-Shabaab ap...An interesting twist on this is that al-Shabaab apparently views their handiwork as a kind of post-post-modern art:<br /><br /><i>"The mesmeric performance by the #Westgate Warriors was undoubtedly <br />gripping, but despair not folks, that was just the premiere of Act 1," <br />according to a al-Shabaab tweet posted Thursday.</i><br /><br />Sounds a lot like the Joker: "Now comes the part where I relieve you, the little people, of the burden<br /> of your failed and useless lives. But, as my plastic surgeon always said: 'if you gotta go, go with a smile.'"Nakajima Kikkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-56380212144280726832013-09-26T23:00:03.986-05:002013-09-26T23:00:03.986-05:00That’s reasonable suspicion Bro. Nulan, but I don’...That’s reasonable suspicion Bro. Nulan, but I don’t think it’s applicable to this situation. There is no doubt that the famine which engulfed Somalia beginning in 2009 was exacerbated by the war, but we have to remember that Somalia was on Bush’s hit list of seven countries targeted for regime change.<br /><br />“ We’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” --Anonymous General to Gen. Wesley Clark<br /><br />My focus was on yet another attempt by Afrikans to determine their destiny being disrupted by imperialist seeking hegemony in a minerally-rich region of Afrika.<br /><br />Paul Gottinger gets to the crux of the matter:<br /><br />http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/25/understanding-kenyas-westgate-mall-attack/makheru bradleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-91260438150203086622013-09-26T18:34:10.413-05:002013-09-26T18:34:10.413-05:0080+ years ago, and Schuyler left virtually no ston...80+ years ago, and Schuyler left virtually no stone unturned in his ruthless lampooning of hokum.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-22941513214913686912013-09-26T18:19:31.590-05:002013-09-26T18:19:31.590-05:00I remember Black Empire. Schuyler was ahead of hi...I remember Black Empire. Schuyler was ahead of his time in attacking some of the foolishness we see today.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-61328378315606477362013-09-26T18:12:24.006-05:002013-09-26T18:12:24.006-05:00I didn't like the coop living arrangements due...I didn't like the coop living arrangements due to that one that's anti-weight pulling and other possible fuckery. The weed was how a person would have to deal with the stress.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-73714747406627447572013-09-26T18:09:13.341-05:002013-09-26T18:09:13.341-05:00Appreciate that one.Appreciate that one.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-46325685295740885772013-09-26T17:25:59.981-05:002013-09-26T17:25:59.981-05:00This book has many examples, in various countries,...This book has many examples, in various countries, of functioning cooperatives and cooperative movements that have been around for a long time.<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Humanizing-Economy-Co-operatives-Age-Capital/dp/086571651XNakajima Kikkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-39932659190354352282013-09-26T17:12:41.804-05:002013-09-26T17:12:41.804-05:00This is a weed-positive neighborhood. As long as p...This is a weed-positive neighborhood. As long as people are held to accounts for pulling their weight - no excuses allowed - weed is a good thing. Schuyler's use of an entheogen in his fictional "church of love" is an interesting speculative model. (Black Empire)CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-84803592449912874702013-09-26T16:28:50.977-05:002013-09-26T16:28:50.977-05:00Damn, you're serious. Be safe, man.Damn, you're serious. Be safe, man.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-46436322458312301242013-09-26T16:19:39.866-05:002013-09-26T16:19:39.866-05:00I've learned that lesson the hard way. They w...I've learned that lesson the hard way. They will waste your time and energy. If you aren't careful, their bullshit will rub off. I wish I were schooled about this kind of thing when I was younger and in obvious need of some game.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-73602726745559642872013-09-26T16:13:29.252-05:002013-09-26T16:13:29.252-05:00I always thought the worker/owner model would work...I always thought the worker/owner model would work in America's hoods. I wouldn't try to encourage coop living arrangements unless you really like smoking weed. But I've been trying to come up with worker/owner models for some time now. It's kind of difficult when people ain't interested.Vic78noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-39171426061048071982013-09-26T14:23:24.666-05:002013-09-26T14:23:24.666-05:00BD, the way you're struggling to outdo yoursel...BD, the way you're struggling to outdo yourself in the "show my ass" category today, most rational folks would be led to imagine that I was running an ignorant fool contest and that you decided today was going to be your big day. http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=25745675&authType=name&authToken=wqbP&goback=.mpd2_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_20130913215601*525745675*5snap*5challenge*5day*51*5prepping*5for*5the*5challenge&trk=mp-ph-pnCNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-46112075145878453942013-09-26T13:59:55.068-05:002013-09-26T13:59:55.068-05:00Nah. The difference between modern slavery and hi...Nah. The difference between modern slavery and historic slavery is now you don't get beaten & killed for not putting out. Today, if it comes down to it, you can go be one of the total leech EBT-swiping parasites yourself....BigDonOnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-33335677703000982342013-09-26T12:58:03.836-05:002013-09-26T12:58:03.836-05:00Yeah man, I know too many Somali's living 15 t...Yeah man, I know too many Somali's living 15 to a room 3 wives, one husband 11 kids type configuration - who do what they have to do in concert with their countrymen - until such time as they cease being renters and have systematically taken over a whole apartment building, and from there, a whole city block. <br /><br /><br /><br />American hen houses are tough, I work one floor down from one and get to witness a little bit of the needless childish drama daily. That said, "there are levels of survival we are prepared to accept" and all - and huge swaths of the rest of the world would DIE or KILL for a crack at the material abundance that American poor have at their disposal if they would only discipline and conduct themselves in a more highly motivated and goal oriented manner.<br /><br /><br />I think that the inherent conflict(s) comprising the impenetrable psycho-social barrier to adaptive living and working arrangements on the part of American poor is status-seeking. Folks go to great lengths to keep up the appearance of "normalcy" and within groups, go to still greater lengths to be at the top of the pecking order.CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-88096691270487249772013-09-26T12:31:17.514-05:002013-09-26T12:31:17.514-05:00Why'n'a'phuk haven't young women, ...<i>Why'n'a'phuk haven't young women, single mothers of one or more <br />children, autopoetically reorganized around dormitory/communal living in<br /> urban monads in order to distribute the load of childcare, <br />homeschooling, cooking, cleaning, security, etc...,?</i><br /><br />You're basically describing a kibbutz. Kibbutzes, with very rare exceptions, have never been successful here, despite their obvious advantages. Neither have cooperatives. Exactly why isn't quite clear, but I'm sure the American individualist perspective has something to do with it.Nakajima Kikkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-66334729576073444572013-09-26T11:37:54.732-05:002013-09-26T11:37:54.732-05:00Street people = tallow calipers
In the immortal ...Street people = tallow calipers<br /><br /><br />In the immortal words of the Architect: "There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept" <br /><br /><br /><br />Street people are not among these "acceptable levels". <br /><br /><br /><br />Folks who are struggling ferociously to make it within the status quo system - but just managing to keep their heads above water - are the ones qualified to participate in economically moral social engineering projects. Folks not struggling to maintain an acceptable level of survival, are immediate fodder for the soap, candle, fertilizer, and animal feed business of tomorrow, today!CNuhttp://subrealism.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-76539114005205335862013-09-26T11:18:30.227-05:002013-09-26T11:18:30.227-05:00What you are talking about here was a people who w...What you are talking about here was a people who were proud of their skill and had some personal commitment to be dignified no matter what the circumstances are around them. That's a lot different than the others you lamented about upstream who display themselves on Jerry Springer. And the mistake is projecting the mindset of the individuals you described here to the ones you lamented about above. <br /><br /><br />I found myself doing that for some street people, I considered what I would do in their circumstance if I were given a place to stay, money and food, and assumed they would do the same. I was projecting my mindset on what they would do. It was a valuable lesson for me, we don't all have the same goals, or desires, or even cares or even the same obligations to take advantage of what is given us. The people I afforded the comforts to, didn't take it as a step, or a rope to pull out of the hole, but instead it was just a temporary better way to enjoy the same street living that was always practiced. Although they didn't seem to like their life the way it was, there was no sign they wanted anything different. <br /><br /><br />Or maybe I should say, they wanted something different if it could be gotten by doing the same thing they have been doing all along.kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-29992423658647840922013-09-26T10:03:35.504-05:002013-09-26T10:03:35.504-05:00The incentive to work hard and do quality work is ...The incentive to work hard and do quality work is eroded when you know half of your compensation is being stolen to support the Really_Uselss IQ-75 parasites.<br />It's why so many just cruise and fake it....BigDonOnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-32299698147820698962013-09-26T09:48:28.965-05:002013-09-26T09:48:28.965-05:00I'm with you on single-sex groups. The human...I'm with you on single-sex groups. The human brain has four hemispheres. You delete two of them you start to get behavior that's only interesting in the sense of cognitive-deficit studies.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-78097625126508996262013-09-26T09:27:45.248-05:002013-09-26T09:27:45.248-05:00I have not, and it is not in my library system. Bu...I have not, and it is not in my library system. But $11 used from Amazon? I've ordered it.John Kurmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11539837.post-32252811127390913862013-09-26T09:18:51.892-05:002013-09-26T09:18:51.892-05:001) Hen house. The fear and disgust, combined, prod...1) Hen house. The fear and disgust, combined, produce the horror of the hen house. The fucking bickering, psychodrama, leg humping, and high dudgeon, this is your standard feminist collective. I ain't saying males are immune to that. If anything, they are even more the vindictive little bitch girlz. But buffer zones and dendritic regimes of appropriate males and females, like a nicely designed circuit, or a piece of Wootz steel, make the village happen. But, yeah, and a full throated yeah at that. 2) Being anti-social is one gadget in the American cultural toolkit that worked VERY well - provided there was a frontier. Now, not so much. 3) I actually think the Chinese might be on to something with their dynamic, permeable combined family ties/meritocratic rolling elite. Americans kind of attempt it, but it's far too arbitrary and threatens too often to become wholly exclusionary. Not sure how we get to Red White and Blue collectivism, but I'm thinking less churn, more butter, if that makes sense.John Kurmannoreply@blogger.com